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Hi there,
wondering which of the two digi-pianos would be better.
Even if you checked only one of them - any opinions are appreciated!!

Thanks,
Michael

I would like an answer to this as well, I am also doubting between these two.
The P-70 should be a bit more expensive and that's why I'm leaning to it a bit more, it seems to be of a higher quality than the casio to me.
But I really not sure and didn't try any of those in person.

So I'd like to know also...

You can compare the specifications and view the respective manuals at the Casio & Yamaha websites. Here is a link to the P-70 manual:

http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/cla/p70_en_om.pdf

P70 is available in stores now and I have played it recently. Acctually, I like the sounds and action of Yammy much more than Casio's one.

Thanks for your answers.
In another forum someone stated just the opposite: The keyboard didn't had the same quality like the Others from the P-series. And sound of the PX-110 would be better.

It seem's I'll have to try them somewhere...

Thanks for your answers.
In another forum someone stated just the opposite: The keyboard didn't had the same quality like the others from the P-series. And the sound of PX-110 would be better.

It seem's I'll have to try them somewhere...

The P70 does not appear to have dynamic sampling (i.e., the sample of piano sound is the same regardless of whether keys are pressed soft or hard). This would be my first concern. It may have touch sensitivity, meaning that the sound loudness will change with the firmness of the attack, but the timbre or tone of the sound will not change, as it does in an acoustic piano.

Anyone, please correct me if I'm incorrect here.

Stan

P.S. The PX 110 does have three layers of sampling.

Thanks saw,
if the P-70 really would not have multi-layer-samples... sure I wouldn't buy it!

Can someone approve this?

I don't have the info to approve it,
but I think the p-60 has three layers of sampling.
So would you still want the casio px-110 over the p-60? p-60 is 750$ I think.
In Israel it costs 1750$.

Hi All!

I just happened to be checking out the Yamaha site before I came to Piano World. I'm a newbie to piano playing, so my range of knowledge is very limited.

I'm also considering my digital options.

The prices I've found for the P70, the P60's, replacement are less than a P60. $599.00 for the P70 at Andy's Music.

There is no mention at the Yamaha site of 3-layer sampling until you get to the P 120 digitals and above. I would imagine if the 60 or 70 had this feature they would be bragging about it.

This might not be a factor for you but the P60 and P70 have 32 note polyphony while the 120/140's have 64 note polyphony. But the price really goes up from the new P70! The 140 is $1,199.00

If your budget is like mine its probably rather limited.

I might just wait until the Yamaha YDP-625 comes out and give it a whirl.

Never tried the Privias.

Hope this helps a little bit.

I received the P90 for Christmas and I could not be happier with it! Extremely solid, great feel, awesome sound, and a heavy-duty professional pedal!

From what I understand, you people are saying the p70 is not better than the px-110 but still costs more? Why? Is it beause of the "Yamaha" brand?

And besides, I thought the px-110 was just a low end instrument that isn't that good, just because it's so cheap.

So is it actully good? I never really played on digitals except for the clavinova CLP-'900 and something' where I learn piano. How would the px-110 feel compared to it?

Tal, my opinion only, based on experience (own Privia PX400 and PX700 and tried to play Yamaha various P series - 120, 140, 60) - compared Yamaha to Casio with the same features, Yamaha is slightly better instrument, but it costs much more. New P140 is greatly overpriced and personally I like better my Privia PX700, I think the piano sample is just better on it,all for $700.

2 questions jana:
1. px700 is only superior to the px-110 because of features that are non-relevant to practicing piano? (like more sounds and stuff, while in the action or the piano samples there's no real difference?)
2. When you say the Yamaha is a slightly better instrument, by what is it better? you mean the action and sound samples are a slightly better? Or is it something else??

Thanks for the info, I didn't start this thread but I actully find myself very affected by this thread and I guess I'm going to get the privia, unless someone tell me I ashould get the prokeys 88 which looks and sounds kickass.
Anyone have any past experience with it? It's a pretty new a keyboard by M-Audio.

I lean toward PX110. I played side by side at Guitar center without any external amplification. PX sounds way better and have more functions than P70. Try testing both pianos and play soft velocities. You will hear the difference. P70 doesn't seem to have 3 layer sampling.

Doesn't the P90 use the 3 layer sampling and it apparently sounds better than the P120? Can someone verify this.

The P90 uses 3 layers of Dynamic Stereo Sampling. Please see:
http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/p90/features.html

As to the P90 sounding better than the P120, that is subjective. I personally like the P120 sound better. You may want to look at this topic:
http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/6/1663.html#000001

The P120 uses exactly the same technology as the P90 (and i am pretty sure there is a 4th layer). And to my ears, the P120 also sounds better than the P90.

i don't think '4-layer' sampling is on P90/120, which is actually on the new CLP200 series (or maybe new CVPs as well).

To achieve such a remarkably authentic piano sound, many of the piano voices use Dynamic Stereo Sampling— three separate layers of stereo samples each set at a different velocity. This means that not only the volume but also the harmonic structure of the notes changes depending on how hard you play the keyboard— just like on a real acoustic piano! For even more accuracy, there’s also a fourth sample layer exclusively for the damper pedal to recreate the unique resonance of a piano’s soundboard and strings when the damper pedal is pressed, and key- off samples to add the subtle sound of the keys being released.

(Taken from Here)