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I’m pretty confident Kawai are replacing the current 701 and 901 models with new ones within maybe the next few months or earlier.

They could be redesigned or refreshed to solve many of the issues users have faced? I doubt it personally but still interesting to see what they do.

What issues? name them and show us the posts (other than yours) on this forum or elsewhere.

In the CA701/901 thread there are plenty of examples and posts from users haha. Facts are facts Abdol, no matter your opinion or beliefs… the evidence is there for all to see.

From memory, here's the impression I had from reading in this forum (and reddit):

* Clicking keys (both soft clicks which is super common, tons of complaints, and super loud clicks which are less common)
* Uneven key weights (possibly due to grease issues) - several users complaints, this is something should be caught when testing the unit prior shipping imo
* Noticeable Speaker artifacts (which kawai said is a normal behaviour)


Either way, Kawai release lifecycle indicated upgrade is imminent, according to ChatGPT:
* CA98, CA78 - Released on 2018
* CA99, CA79 - Released on 2020 (Feb.)
* CA901, CA701 - Released on 2022 (Nov.)

Well first of all I can’t see any links! Why should I spend my time to search for something which is 90% not real?

I can post a video of Yamaha and Kawai transacoustic pianos when muted and prove you that more than 90 percent of what people saying is not true.

I’ve read almost every single complaint on this forum about various brands.

There are some legitimate ones, some are defects due to quality control failures and the rest aren’t legitimate issues.

We have seen all of them and clicking in the CA series of your interest isn’t a common issue.

If it was, then we would have had a large number of complaints popping up just like the slip tape issue or early iterations of MP7SE.

There are some folks here that believe the keys should make no or very little noise. You’d be surprised how often this question arises that “does my keyboard keys sound normal “

And the you see a video of a random dude playing a turned off keyboard and everything sounds perfectly normal.

Not sure what's your point here Abdol, there's a huge CA701/CA901 post with lots of complaints, no need to search, or sending you links - I saw you commenting there,
So you are aware to the amount and variety of complaints.

You can say it's insignificant, which is a valid opinion, but not denying the 34+ pags posts that has a lot of complaints.

From my personal impression, the clicking is a real and super common problem.
When I was considering buying the Kawai piano, I went to the store and the demo unit had almost two octaves clicking - what are the odds?

You can argue that it is not a significant problem, but you can't deny its existence or how common it is.

I’m also not getting your point! First of all, tell us which thread, second if you mean the one which there’s a cure complaint and I was called a troll there… well that thread is not about complaints and 34+ pages discuss about so many things.

Do some stats and be realistic. I’m not defending any brand. I just learned not to accept someone’s complaints without a proper proof.

I had issues with my MP7 SE and Kawai replaced my keyboard. It was a legitimate issue. The technician said what it was and everything is normal since then. Zero issues.

Abdol you’re a troll or you work for kawai… the damage has been done, the facts and video evidence has been made, it’s too late to try to make them look good again.

I’ve owned 3 different CA models and they all had issues including uneven key weighting (some keys in the high treble area of the keyboard were heavier than lower bass keys) and clicking sounds. I’ve also owned a kawai es920 and still do and it works fine with no issues apart from some uneven key spacing which hasn’t affected me really.

Kawai can make decent pianos but the CA range clearly doesn’t get any proper quality control before they’re made available to purchase. IMO they are as close to a scam as you get find on the market.

https://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/3394529/kawai-ca901-ca701.html

54 pages of references to clicks and sticky keys. Reddit is similar.

That's nonsense. If that is true, the first post must be about sticky key issues. Reddit isn't similar. It's so easy to see a few users have hyjacked the thread to press their own fabrications and impose it on the users.

Listen, almost every one can read English and understand it, and even if they can't, ChatGPT is there to help. So no one is idiot here to buy these nonsensical fabrications.

Yes! Of course I work for Kawai! You just realized it now, alone? Looks like you're emotionally damaged based on what you're saying! There isn't a single eveidence that these issues are common issues across Kawai CA701s. But there is a clear evidence that you're butthurt.

My friendly advice to both of you would be to refrain from personal attacks or face a possible ban.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion but personal attacks are not helpful.

My own experience of owning a CA79 for 5 years is that it's had a few issues with a "thumping" noise as the key reaches to bottom of the stroke but I've found that greasing the hammer solves it for about a year.

I'm still very pleased with it.

John

I will NEVER buy a Kawai digital again.

They have very serious and ongoing QC issues, and they don't seem to care.

Clicking keys. I tested several and owned a few. They all had random keys that made clicks that was audible with and without headphones. Unless you blast the piano at full volume which no one does.

Poorly designed let-off that varied from imperceptible to taking a good deal of force to get past it. It made playing pianissimo difficult without ghost notes.

I bought a Roland maybe 6 years ago? Zero issues. And that thing has taken a beating. No annoying clicking keys. Let-off like it should be.

Anyone who denies Kawai has QC issues is either trolling or delusional (or works for them).

I think Abdol has lost all his credibility on this forum.

You work for Kawai. At least acknowledge that there are issues. Don't say there aren't any and start attacking people.

Really sad man.

Yeah Kawai has the same response to all customers, if you can’t hear the clicks at over half volume it’s not an issue and they will TELL YOU it’s not an issue like they’re in the right and you’re wrong no matter what… like they’re the authority here and that’s not a matter of opinion either as I told the technician when he came over that it’s irrelevant whether I hear clicks under half volume as I don’t always want to play my piano that loud… why should I? It’s a digital piano and one of the main advantages is you can play at lower volumes when you so desire.

Why should I have to play it at a volume so it masks their faults? The absolute cheek!

Abdol, in that case please be aware that you MUST state this fact clearly in your forum signature. Please read the forum rule to this effect and please comply with it now.


You're crossing the line, Abdol. Please remain polite.

Also, to other posters please refrain from using rhetoric such as:


If you think someone is deliberately trolling then please use the report button. Escalating the conflict by throwing insults will result in a (temporary or permanent) ban for the person throwing the insults.

Oh dear I can’t be far off a ban then lol

Hello Bart K,


I don't believe Abdol is being serious in this claim.

Regarding the topic in question, Kawai R&D is constantly working on new models, although I obviously cannot disclose any details. With that said, I don't believe we will be seeing any updated CA Series models for a little while yet.

Kind regards,
James
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I've been called troll several times and when explaining that issues need to be properly presented and documented the answer is that I work for Kawai! What kind of logic is this? If issues are not recorded and demonstrated properly, finding a pattern and a solution for it becomes cumbersome if not impossible.

I beleive the best way to approach a paranoid is to just approve all the accusations! Eventually they'll either run out of accusations or they get tired of doing it.