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A good 130 sized piano is a good substitute for a smaller grand. The soundboard is often bigger with longer strings.If not a Japanese piano a tall, used (not too old) European piano (mentioned earlier by terminaldegree) would be the ideal piano.I would not rush into buying any just piano judging by the pieces you enjoy playing. On the the other hand a new or almost new U3 or K500 may be an excellent choice. I realise we are pushing your budget up, however a good choice piano could last a lifetime.When considering a piano sometimes brand and model ARE important.
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If you've got I am well aware of the advantages of a grand, but every one I've tried in my price range has been low in quality and honestly, I don't have room for a grand. If you've got space for an upright, you can more than likely fit a baby grand. It's worth it, trust me. It is true, budget at least 10K for a quality used baby grand. But again, it's worth it. You'll end up buying another piano once the K-200 starts to show it's limitations. Liszt Transcendental etudes? It won't take very long
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Hello all. For some context, I am playing Chopin's Ballades, Liszt's Transcendental Etudes, other pieces of the same caliber. I've been playing on a digital piano my entire life. I have a tiny budget. I want an instrument that's going to give me a decent action and sound. I know, I know, I really should be playing on something better than the Kawai K-200. But that's all I can afford right now. My local dealer has one on sale for 6k, brand new. Can I do any better, or is this a good option? Also, my dealer has lifetime trade-ups, meaning this 6k will apply to any other piano I choose to trade up for in the future. Thanks,
Toby I also purchased a K200 (but silent version) with lifetime upgrade (- cost of VAT). I do not see why you would not purchase the K200, as if you do not like it then just upgrade to a taller upright/ baby grand later. As you can always upgrade but cannot downgrade. This way you also get to try mulitple pianos which to me is a benefit. I live in the UK and houses are not as large as America, and although I initially wanted a taller piano, due to the set up of the room and room size , I find that the K200 is already quite loud.
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If you've got I am well aware of the advantages of a grand, but every one I've tried in my price range has been low in quality and honestly, I don't have room for a grand. If you've got space for an upright, you can more than likely fit a baby grand. It's worth it, trust me. It is true, budget at least 10K for a quality used baby grand. But again, it's worth it. You'll end up buying another piano once the K-200 starts to show it's limitations. Liszt Transcendental etudes? It won't take very long Depending on the size of the baby grand a 130 size upright would give a far better sound especially in the bass.Apart from that it is unlikely an amateur can outplay a good upright in excellent condition.Many proffesionals practice on accoustic uprights.
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Hello all. For some context, I am playing Chopin's Ballades, Liszt's Transcendental Etudes, other pieces of the same caliber. I've been playing on a digital piano my entire life. I have a tiny budget. I want an instrument that's going to give me a decent action and sound. I know, I know, I really should be playing on something better than the Kawai K-200. But that's all I can afford right now. My local dealer has one on sale for 6k, brand new. Can I do any better, or is this a good option? Also, my dealer has lifetime trade-ups, meaning this 6k will apply to any other piano I choose to trade up for in the future. Thanks,
Toby I also purchased a K200 (but silent version) with lifetime upgrade (- cost of VAT). I do not see why you would not purchase the K200, as if you do not like it then just upgrade to a taller upright/ baby grand later. As you can always upgrade but cannot downgrade. This way you also get to try mulitple pianos which to me is a benefit. I live in the UK and houses are not as large as America, and although I initially wanted a taller piano, due to the set up of the room and room size , I find that the K200 is already quite loud. It's much better to go and try those different pianos at the dealers which is free rather than serially upgrading at a cost for each exchange. We will all probably upgrade at some time but it makes sense to choose wisely and minimise the number of times we have to make those upgrades.
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If you've got I am well aware of the advantages of a grand, but every one I've tried in my price range has been low in quality and honestly, I don't have room for a grand. If you've got space for an upright, you can more than likely fit a baby grand. It's worth it, trust me. It is true, budget at least 10K for a quality used baby grand. But again, it's worth it. You'll end up buying another piano once the K-200 starts to show it's limitations. Liszt Transcendental etudes? It won't take very long Depending on the size of the baby grand a 130 size upright would give a far better sound especially in the bass.Apart from that it is unlikely an amateur can outplay a good upright in excellent condition.Many proffesionals practice on accoustic uprights. From a sound perspective, sure--it's going to be louder and boomier--and it's going to slap the player right in the face. It comes down to the physics of the action mechanism. All advanced players can feel it, and its overwhelming. You play an upright differently than you play a grand--ask any pianist
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