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Originally Posted by carey
You obviously know the piece !! For someone like me (an amateur) who was hearing the Vine Sonata for the very first time - without benefit of following the score - Lin's rendition was impressive. But then - that's ultimately up to the judges to decide.

I dont know, I think even without following the score, what you hear comes out as bangy and lacking in nuance most of the time. Of course, if you do know the score, you quickly realize that here's someone who doesn't care much about tempo markings, dynamics, inner voices (where did the accents in the middle register aroudn page 2-3 in the first movement disappear?) etc etc but is more obsessed with creating a "flashy" impression. Didn't hear the previous pieces in his program, however.

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Idk, I think Liszt is pretty good. There are occasionally incorrect notes, but I can't imagine ever playing it without wrong notes. It's powerful.

It's a little too labored sounding for my taste. Maybe he can summon some energy at the fugue and salvage this.



edit: no, this is slipping away

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I know the piece pretty well, too. In fact, my friend played this for his senior recital a couple years ago. smile

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I've never heard a Liszt Sonata that didn't sound labored, except maybe Laplante. But I have heard it played flawlessly, by Khozyainov who's playing it in the second round.

McDonald does have a beautiful, singing tone.

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Martha Argerich is my favorite Liszt Sonata. Laplante's is also amazing.

But for a Cliburn competitor, I think this was great. I haven't heard Khozyainov, but I'm excited to smile

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Zuber did a pretty good Liszt sonata at the Rubinstein competition. I'll be interested to hear Fei-Fei Dong's version.

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Fine decent playing of the Liszt sonata by McDonald, but not up to the competition standards.

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Unfortunately, I missed McDonald's performance - had to go out and buy flowers for my wife - our 38th anniversary today !! wink

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Originally Posted by carey
Unfortunately, I missed McDonald's performance - had to go out and buy flowers for my wife - our 39th anniversary today !! wink


Congratulations on your anniversary !

Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

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Don't worry, you didn't miss much.

Fine decent playing of the Liszt sonata by McDonald, but not up to the competition standards.

Though a fine performance, he is yet to experiment more with Rachmaninoff style pedaling. His lines are too detached. Unfortunately, I am not convinced with this performance so far. He has learned the notes and playing the score, but not the music. He really does not feel it.


The Vine is really getting more of a garbage and banging.

Nope. He is too nervous to make it. Vine is not going well too.

He must calm down, or he will loose this phase altogether.
Meaningless rush. And unfortunate support from the less acknowledged audience. Hope it does not reflect to his Vine Sonata.

Lin's Bach is not Bach, but a Bach imitation.

Edit: And an almost amateur level start to the Mendelssohn. Continuing in a similar manner. Not to be expected in a competition of this caliber.

Yes indeed. The Schumann is not very good until now.

To me this is just robotic playing without any personality. With such facilitated fingers I wished she had a good teacher who would teach her how to make real music. What a pity.


I'm all for critical listening, but sheesh...:)

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Unfortunately, I missed McDonald's performance - had to go out and buy flowers for my wife - our 39th anniversary today !! wink


Congratulations on your anniversary !

Don't worry, you didn't miss much.


Thanks - that's good to know !! smile


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Originally Posted by carey
Unfortunately, I missed McDonald's performance - had to go out and buy flowers for my wife - our 38th anniversary today !! wink


HAPPY HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! laugh

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I have never heard of Theofanidis, or the names Kresiler mentioned.


Really? That's quite surprising. Theofanidis is pretty well known.


Have you studied any of his piano works?
Do you have any CD of his piano works?

According to wiki he seems to have a total of three piano works.


I know him more from his orchestral and choral works, especially Rainbow Body which made a huge splash when it won the 2003 British Masterprize in competition.


Really? Isn't it quite surprising that he has been commissioned for a piano competition.


Here's a clue for you: he was born in Dallas, Texas.

But, regardless of that, no, it's not surprising he was commissioned for a piano competition. After all, it only takes one composition to demonstrate whether one has the ability to compose for the instrument or not, and he's written more than that, including a substantial multi-movement concerto.

Here's a solo piece of his, which, whether you like it or not (and you won't, since it is not an antique museum piece and the composer is not yet dead), does show that he is unlikely to seriously embarrass himself or the Cliburn with this commission -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLJ3bQzZVE






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Beethoven trumps Bones.

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His Beethoven second movement is quite enchanting.

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Unbelievable.


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Anyone else having trouble with the performance continually breaking up?

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That was my unbelievable comment. At the worst possible moment, too.


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Not in the last 20 minutes, no.

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I loved his Arietta.


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