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Posted By: lovelovemale [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 04:31 PM
Hey guys,

just saw this was released today (Friday April 29, 2022).
Any thoughts on this anybody? By any chance anybody that can already give feedback?

I own the Ravenscroft275 and love it. I also got the Modern U... playability is nice but I have buyer's remorse due to lack of dynamics, low end etc.
The Ravenscroft275 is so good that I am thinking about getting the 220... However the 220 VI has been sampled through a company called "prime studios". Are they any good?

let's discuss!

Ravenscroft 220 VI by Prime Studios
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 05:18 PM
Hello,

@lovelovemale, Thanks for posting!

It looks to me as if that website is as new as the "coming soon" virtual piano library. Maybe the company is also new?

I've never heard of them before (has anybody?) so it'd be hard to tell if they're good.

The website doesn't tell anything remarkable or interesting about this new instrument, and the pricing at first glance seems prohibitively high. The fact that it is a Kontakt (incl. Player) instrument also puzzles me. The really superb pianos all run on/in other platforms.

No sound examples, no videos to be found.

Their general terms are one big disclaimer. I cannot find an explicit trial/return/refund policy. I will probably never again purchase a virtual instrument that cannot be fully tried before purchase or at least have a no-hassle no questions asked return and refund policy. Even more so at such high prices.

Maybe it's all a bit in a (too) early stage yet.

Cheers and be careful,

HZ
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 05:24 PM
Also: "The Ravenscroft275 is so good that I am thinking about getting the 220.". There is no relationship whatsoever between the VI Labs 275 project and this new Austrian one, so also no causal relationship to assume quality.

Cheers and be careful,

HZ
Posted By: lovelovemale Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 06:04 PM
Hey HZPiano,

yeah I totally agree!
I found this because I actually live close to Scottsdale, Arizona and I am following Ravenscroft Pianos via Facebook... they posted this and said new partnership of our Ravenscroft 220... so I thought there might be a relationship since they actually also made the 275 in collaboration with VI LABS.

I also felt the Marketing on the prime studios website is really "weak" but I am no expert so I figured I share this to get ideas from the biggest community smile

Thanks for your input so far and happy Friday!
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 07:02 PM
Hello,

@lovelovemale, Thank you, good Friday to you too. Mine is already coming to a close and the weekend about to start 🙂.

Did you ever visit Ravenscroft? Do they actually build their instruments in Scottsdale? Would be interesting to see that.

At one of my travels I stayed in Scottsdale (after landing on the Sky Harbor) for a few days before starting out into Arizona and Utah. I'm rather fond of those areas.

Cheers and happy explorations,

HZ
Posted By: vagfilm Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 08:38 PM
There are a few examples under the "lite" tab... Did not listen to them.
Posted By: lovelovemale Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 09:02 PM
@HZPiano:

I actually did visit Ravenscroft but it was before they moved their location. It was a small factory, it was quite hard to find initially. There was somebody working on Piano in the back... I told him I own the VST and was very excited to see a Ravenscroft in person for the first time. I am originally from Germany and lived in Hamburg where I could visit and play Steinways as a hobby (there is a place in Hamburg it allows you to play on Steinways for 2-5 Euros an hour!!!).
So he let me play on a Ravenscroft and continued to work, it was so awesome (except that I am a self taught beginner player so :p)

Anyways, If it's interesting I can definitely swing by their new location and take some pictures and post them here.

@HZPiano just off topic: BTW I graduated for my Bachelors in Enschede, the Netherlands and worked for about 2 years in Hengelo :p! Miss the beautiful Netherlands... Arizona is def VERY VERY different than other places of the world :p

In case anybody checks out the new Ravenscroft 220 plugin let us know what you think!
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 10:40 PM
Wow! I've been hoping the 220 would be samples. I like the sound of a smaller grand and I love the ravenscroft -- just surprised (and disappointed) that it's not VI labs doing. I'm hoping there's some sampling real talent behind this new Prime Studios to justify that kind of price.

@HZPiano, the general terms do say:

"The right of revocation or, respectively, the withdrawal period for consumers (B2C) is 14 calendar days. It begins on the day the product is received by the customer.
....

The Prime Studio GmbH undertakes, in the event of justified withdrawal / revocation by the customer within 30 days of receipt of the returned product, to refund the customer the purchase price of the product, but less the shipping charges and expenses for processing the order, which were already included in the price. The Prime Studio GmbH will inform the customer of this circumstance and the specific amount withheld, if any, by e-mail."

But I agree that I'd like more explicit language.
Posted By: David Lai Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 11:25 PM
The only have some examples in the "light" tab as unlisted Youtube videos. It sounds like a jazz improvisation. The piece is not too exciting, and to me it sounds like that the piano was captured at a close mic sound. I don't hear any hall at all, and so it's not very natural I think. Now I favor pianos that have some kind of room baked in, as they sound natural to a classical player like me.

I wouldn't be interested in this VST. However, to their credit, there's una corda samples, which is great!!!

David
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/29/22 11:43 PM
I also thought the demos were unexcting. Yet, I love the original Ravenscroft so much I decided to brave it and hope they'd honor a potential return. Brazen, I know, but I just spent a lot less money on a new keyboard than I was expecting to, so decided what the hey. The fact that they have una corda, half pedaling, sympathetic resonance, and release samples, and repedaling boded well, and I have some pretty rockin external reverbs anyway.

I can't offer particularly good playing samples, but I'll report back my playability findings
Posted By: newer player Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 12:10 AM
Originally Posted by napilopez
Wow! I've been hoping the 220 would be samples. I like the sound of a smaller grand and I love the ravenscroft -- just surprised (and disappointed) that it's not VI labs doing. I'm hoping there's some sampling real talent behind this new Prime Studios
After VI Lab's success with the Modern U, I think a lot of us were waiting for another VI Lab's grand. . .
Posted By: VladK Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by napilopez
Wow! I've been hoping the 220 would be samples. I like the sound of a smaller grand and I love the ravenscroft -- just surprised (and disappointed) that it's not VI labs doing. I'm hoping there's some sampling real talent behind this new Prime Studios to justify that kind of price.

@HZPiano, the general terms do say:

"The right of revocation or, respectively, the withdrawal period for consumers (B2C) is 14 calendar days. It begins on the day the product is received by the customer.
....

The Prime Studio GmbH undertakes, in the event of justified withdrawal / revocation by the customer within 30 days of receipt of the returned product, to refund the customer the purchase price of the product, but less the shipping charges and expenses for processing the order, which were already included in the price. The Prime Studio GmbH will inform the customer of this circumstance and the specific amount withheld, if any, by e-mail."

But I agree that I'd like more explicit language.

The processing fee can be any amount they wish. I'd like to see precise numbers.
And by justified they may mean the product does not work, and cannot be made to work, on customer computer.
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 03:18 AM
Well, I installed it and played with it for about an hour and my conclusion is unfortunately to wait this one out.

There's a lot to like. I like the sound of the piano and the quality of samples a lot (the piano is a bit bright but sounds quite unique). The resonances sound great. The bass is both more thunderous and less muddy than on the Ravenscroft 275.

But as I feared, the playability is just not up there with the VI Labs option. In particular, there's this weird issue where lowish velocity samples sound totally different when the pedal is down vs when the pedal is up.

Even more strange, this doesn't happen in some of the presets. It also stops being an issue if you turn off the pedal resonance knob (although some degree of pedal resonance remains). By default, the release samples seem to quiet and the attack just kind of fades away. But if you turn up the release samples, it sounds a lot better, but then the pedal releases are too loud.

My test piece is always the Chopin Prelude in E Minor because it's good for determining pedaling behavior, dynamic range, and the degree of gradation at low velocity levels. And so far it just doesn't sound great with it.

Overall, the velocity layers are pretty good, but I think I can also notice the differences more than on the VI Labs.

Alas. I might be able to get it to sound and play well with some more tweaks, and it's probably fine for most production uses. But it's just not the out of box greatness of the VI Labs 275. Hopefully some tweaks and the full version can make it better, but for now I suggest you wait until there are more impressions (or Prime Studios implements a clear return policy)


Originally Posted by VladK
Originally Posted by napilopez
Wow! I've been hoping the 220 would be samples. I like the sound of a smaller grand and I love the ravenscroft -- just surprised (and disappointed) that it's not VI labs doing. I'm hoping there's some sampling real talent behind this new Prime Studios to justify that kind of price.

@HZPiano, the general terms do say:

"The right of revocation or, respectively, the withdrawal period for consumers (B2C) is 14 calendar days. It begins on the day the product is received by the customer.
....

The Prime Studio GmbH undertakes, in the event of justified withdrawal / revocation by the customer within 30 days of receipt of the returned product, to refund the customer the purchase price of the product, but less the shipping charges and expenses for processing the order, which were already included in the price. The Prime Studio GmbH will inform the customer of this circumstance and the specific amount withheld, if any, by e-mail."

But I agree that I'd like more explicit language.

The processing fee can be any amount they wish. I'd like to see precise numbers.
And by justified they may mean the product does not work, and cannot be made to work, on customer computer.

Yeah, my hopes weren't high on that front anyway, but I'll see.
Just listened through the demos on their website. It's a very bright and in-your-face tone. The wide stereo note panning doesn't sound good to my ears on headphones – almost like two pianos playing left & right. Would be interesting to feel how it plays.
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 06:20 AM
Hello,

Agreeing to most if not all posts above.

I noticed something odd: Yesterday after @lovelovemale's initial post I visited that website and both versions (a 'full' and a 'lite'), yet today it only shows the 'lite'.

While yesterday it was all 'coming soon' (if I remember correctly!) but now the Lite has an order/PayPal button.

@napilopez Did you order and test the Lite version? Thanks a lot for your bravery and impressions!

Cheers and all be careful,

HZ
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 06:27 AM
Hello,

Just to make sure:

This Ravenscroft 220 virtual instrument is *not* a new library by VI Labs Audio!!

This release has nothing to do with VI Labs as far as I can see.

Commercially speaking, it is a rather peculiar move by Ravenscroft Pianos to partner with another company for this new library, instead of making a profitable use of the huge name, installed base and leverage that they have gathered through the cooperation with VI Labs.

Cheers and all be careful,

HZ
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 07:12 AM
Originally Posted by newer player
After VI Lab's success with the Modern U, I think a lot of us were waiting for another VI Lab's grand. . .

For realism and joy in playing "as if really at the piano", Modern U is still my no.1 benchmark. So yes, I am one of those eager to see what their next release is going to be.

Their historical development/timeline as I see it:

-> True Keys Pianos -- not good enough for true solo piano playing. Production tools, sitting in a mix, at most.

-> Ravenscroft 275 -- a huge leap in quality, I can surely see the love that it gets. Yet to me something intangible is missing, making it still miss that essential illusion of sitting at a real piano. So for me, it still doesn't cut it.

-> Modern U -- close to excellent. My benchmark for realism as said above. If it weren't for Modern U, digital piano playing just wouldn't have worked out for me.

SO -- for a next release they have some huge shoes of their own to fill. This may be tricky -- I hope they'll pull it off maintaining/exceeding the level of realism and playability as a true solo piano they managed in Modern U.

Cheers and happy anticipation,

HZ
Posted By: CraiginNZ Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 08:20 AM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Originally Posted by newer player
After VI Lab's success with the Modern U, I think a lot of us were waiting for another VI Lab's grand. . .

-> Modern U -- close to excellent. My benchmark for realism as said above. If it weren't for Modern U, digital piano playing just wouldn't have worked out for me.

HZ


Just "close" to excellent? You're a hard person to please :-)

I agree that it's odd Ravenscroft didn't partner with VILabs on this. That would be about as close to a sure thing as you get in the sampling world, I imagine.
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 08:39 AM
Originally Posted by CraiginNZ
Just "close" to excellent? You're a hard person to please :-)

😋 Oops, guilty as charged!

Originally Posted by CraiginNZ
I agree that it's odd Ravenscroft didn't partner with VILabs on this. That would be about as close to a sure thing as you get in the sampling world, I imagine.

Yes. From the first not so favorable responses here on this 220, it seems to be a huge missed opportunity for Ravenscroft Pianos and (perhaps) VI Labs. Of course we don't know what is going on in their minds and/or what VI Labs currently is up to.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 04/30/22 08:42 AM
Originally Posted by lovelovemale
@HZPiano just off topic: BTW I graduated for my Bachelors in Enschede, the Netherlands and worked for about 2 years in Hengelo :p! Miss the beautiful Netherlands... Arizona is def VERY VERY different than other places of the world :p

A fun notion!!

🙂

HZ
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/01/22 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Originally Posted by CraiginNZ
Just "close" to excellent? You're a hard person to please :-)

😋 Oops, guilty as charged!

Originally Posted by CraiginNZ
I agree that it's odd Ravenscroft didn't partner with VILabs on this. That would be about as close to a sure thing as you get in the sampling world, I imagine.

Yes. From the first not so favorable responses here on this 220, it seems to be a huge missed opportunity for Ravenscroft Pianos and (perhaps) VI Labs. Of course we don't know what is going on in their minds and/or what VI Labs currently is up to.

Cheers and happy playing,

HZ

Yeah, I have to assume there was at least a sensible reason not to go with VI Labs on this one. Or it might've been something as simple as the fact that Prime Studios ordered a Ravenscroft 220 and figured "why don't we sample it?"
I have been speaking to Arthur Collins recently via email who is of VI Labs Support and he did confirm to me that they are currently working on an update for the Ravenscroft 275 although they cannot confirm an official release date.

So, something is definitely in the works which is long overdue in my opinion as the Ravenscroft 275 has needed an update for some time. I hope they actually record in the same space as the Modern U to be honest with you as I feel the Modern U has the perfect balance of room and dryness needed to make it versatile in any playing scenario.
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/07/22 07:36 PM
Hello,

@David P Osborne, That would be exciting news!

That would be a complete redoing of R275? Or a completely new virtual instrument of a different piano?

In any case, yes the way and the room in which the U3 was sampled works a treat and technically (scripting for instance) it should at least have Modern U quality.

Modern U is great -- it is the only virtual instrument so far that I can actually use for my everyday playing and have the illusion of a real instrument with. Without it, digital just wouldn't have gotten feasible for me.

Cheers and happy anticipation,

HZ
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/07/22 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by David P Osborne
I have been speaking to Arthur Collins recently via email who is of VI Labs Support and he did confirm to me that they are currently working on an update for the Ravenscroft 275 although they cannot confirm an official release date.

So, something is definitely in the works which is long overdue in my opinion as the Ravenscroft 275 has needed an update for some time. I hope they actually record in the same space as the Modern U to be honest with you as I feel the Modern U has the perfect balance of room and dryness needed to make it versatile in any playing scenario.

That's amazing news! I cannot wait to see what it is. I wholeheartedly agree with HZPiano that the Modern U is the most convincing "I'm at the piano" VST, besides perhaps some binaural recordings

The Modern U has the best sympathetic resonance engine of any sampled piano I've used, so I'm hoping that is maintained for VI Labs' next project.
Posted By: newer player Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/07/22 10:07 PM
Originally Posted by David P Osborne
I have been speaking to Arthur Collins recently via email who is of VI Labs Support and he did confirm to me that they are currently working on an update for the Ravenscroft 275 although they cannot confirm an official release date.

So, something is definitely in the works which is long overdue in my opinion as the Ravenscroft 275 has needed an update for some time. I hope they actually record in the same space as the Modern U to be honest with you as I feel the Modern U has the perfect balance of room and dryness needed to make it versatile in any playing scenario.
Awesome!
Posted By: EB5AGV Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/07/22 10:42 PM
Great news!. I will save some cash for it... I hope they offer an upgrade path to current Ravenscroft 275 owners
The new scripting from Modern U into the R275 would be fantastic it really is a superior vat on every level and the Mites Strikes are phenomenal, they really are. The Modern U has such am organic feel to it. Whilst it still has that raw sound to it it is still very well rounded and full and it can be used for so many different styles of play.

The biggest problem for the R275 is the other mics aside from the close mic, they sound and feel a little off and the soundstage doesn't feel right even more so when blended together, that is its biggest downfall for me.
The CPU usage on the R275 is more resourceful though as I find the Modern U can be a little CPU hungry for some.reason....

I am also in the market for a new controller... I have a Roland A88 but I am finding a little too gummy as of recent and want something with a better action... I am currently in between the A88 MK2 or the VPC1 which I used to own but swapped it out for the A88 when I bought Keyscape haha oh the irony eh... So I am familiar with the VPC1 but I have heard the VPC1 does not work too great with Keyscape....

Any thoughts or ideas?
Posted By: Frédéric L Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/08/22 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
The fact that it is a Kontakt (incl. Player) instrument also puzzles me. The really superb pianos all run on/in other platforms.

No sound examples, no videos to be found.

One of my favorite virtual piano is Bechstein Digital Grand and it is a Kontakt library… (however, I prefer to use a separated reverb instead of its).

There are some videos… https://www.the220vi.com/Ravenscroft-220-VI-Lite/RAV-220-VI-Lite (click Listen).
Posted By: VladK Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/08/22 11:45 PM
Kontakt has a long list of high quality piano libraries with unique sound from 8Dio, Bechstein, Chocolate Audio, Best Service (Galaxy), Fluffy Audio, Embertone, Orchestral Tools, Impact Soundworks, NI, Wavesfactory, Production Voices.

Non-Kontakt list is much shorter - VSL, Garritan, EastWest, SONiVOX, Synthogy (Ivory), VI Labs, Whole Sounds.
Posted By: propianist Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/09/22 09:36 AM
The "Lite" version pictured costs €154.80, runs in Kontakt or free Kontakt Player, 25GB size, 12 velocity layers, 16,000 samples at 16 bit 44.1kHz (down-converted from 32 bit 192kHz), based on Ravenscroft 220 model 7 foot 3 inch grand piano. Does includes Sympathetic String Resonance and Pedal Resonance so it might be a serious contender. So far only the "Lite" version is on sale. Presumably at some future point they will release their more expensive Prime Studio Ravenscroft 220 full version (listed on website, but TBA, price unknown) which should have a few more mic positions and probably more velocity layers. Interesting...

[Linked Image]

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YouTube demos... (it's the same short jazz excerpt each time, rendered with 4 different factory tone settings...)







Posted By: lovelovemale Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/20/22 03:46 PM
seems like this is not popular at all as nobody else has bought this?
Ravenscroft should have partnered up with VI Labs... I'm sure it would have resulted in more customers :P
Posted By: Taushi Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/20/22 05:14 PM
Did they scrap the full version? It seems to have disappeared from their website.
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/20/22 09:08 PM
Originally Posted by Taushi
Did they scrap the full version? It seems to have disappeared from their website.

It has indeed. I saw it on the site for a brief moment but then it was gone.

Cheers,

HZ
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Originally Posted by Taushi
Did they scrap the full version? It seems to have disappeared from their website.

It has indeed. I saw it on the site for a brief moment but then it was gone.

Cheers,

HZ

It's there now, along with a comparison page:

https://www.the220vi.com/Ravenscroft-220-VI/RAV-220-VI

https://www.the220vi.com/Ravenscroft-220-VI/Ravenscroft-220-VI-Comparison/

The Lite version has 2 mic sets (Close & LFE, which I think refers to Low Frequency Effects) x 2 sample sets (Modern & Vintage)
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/21/22 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by Craig Richards
It's there now, along with a comparison page

Aha! And there's a little more background presented there now as well.

All in all, I'm still far from sure what to think of it.

I'd like to again extend the message to most sample-based piano VI producers that a decent, friendly way to thoroughly try/test before committing to a purchase is essential. Even more so at this price level.

Cheers,

HZ
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Originally Posted by Craig Richards
It's there now, along with a comparison page

Aha! And there's a little more background presented there now as well.

All in all, I'm still far from sure what to think of it.

I'd like to again extend the message to most sample-based piano VI producers that a decent, friendly way to thoroughly try/test before committing to a purchase is essential. Even more so at this price level.

Cheers,

HZ

+1 smile
Posted By: David Lai Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/21/22 01:26 PM
The fact they only have one demo piece, a blues / jazz piece at that, is making me very suspicious about this library.
Posted By: JosephW Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/21/22 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by David Lai
The fact they only have one demo piece, a blues / jazz piece at that, is making me very suspicious about this library.
yeah, automatically don't trust it
Posted By: klausi6 Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/21/22 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by David P Osborne
I have been speaking to Arthur Collins recently via email who is of VI Labs Support and he did confirm to me that they are currently working on an update for the Ravenscroft 275 although they cannot confirm an official release date.

So, something is definitely in the works which is long overdue in my opinion as the Ravenscroft 275 has needed an update for some time. I hope they actually record in the same space as the Modern U to be honest with you as I feel the Modern U has the perfect balance of room and dryness needed to make it versatile in any playing scenario.


Thank you very much for this good news. I like the R275 more than Modern U.
Posted By: Taushi Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/22/22 06:36 AM
Originally Posted by HZPiano
Originally Posted by Craig Richards
It's there now, along with a comparison page

Aha! And there's a little more background presented there now as well.

All in all, I'm still far from sure what to think of it.

I'd like to again extend the message to most sample-based piano VI producers that a decent, friendly way to thoroughly try/test before committing to a purchase is essential. Even more so at this price level.

Cheers,

HZ

Agreed. We’ve seen companies with standalone like VSL do it, and companies who use services like Kontakt do it, such as Embertone. I don’t see any reasonable issue preventing people from offering demos for their products, especially at these price points.

I’d say very few people are inclined to spend this kind of money if there’s no way to try it and no way to return it, especially after buying a few stinkers that have great demos but limited playability.
Posted By: JosephW Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 05/22/22 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Taushi
I’d say very few people are inclined to spend this kind of money if there’s no way to try it and no way to return it, especially after buying a few stinkers that have great demos but limited playability.

exactly. I've purchased way too many of these stinkers, and wouldn't trust any new VST without a demo. basically I don't trust any new VST at all until I'm consistently reading many posts by PW members saying its the greatest VST they've ever used lol
Posted By: BrianAlex Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 06/08/22 01:20 PM
Any new/additional feedback on this product?
Posted By: BrianAlex Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 06/23/22 01:56 PM
Checking in again to see if anyone has tried this yet.
Posted By: Georg Z. Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 06/23/22 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by David Lai
The fact they only have one demo piece, a blues / jazz piece at that, is making me very suspicious about this library.
meanwhile audio samples for the "full" version are online, including music from Rachmaninoff and Debussy
Posted By: HZPiano Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 06/23/22 03:48 PM
Hello,

Thanks @Georg Z. for spotting that.

I just listened to most of the 'Full' samples. Is it me? They sound rather weird and off in quite a few ways. I'm afraid this is a difficult and not yet too successful project for Prime Studio and for Ravenscroft Pianos.

If only there were useable trial versions, then we could make true assessments of the quality of this (or any, for that matter) library.

Cheers and be careful,

HZ
Posted By: napilopez Re: [New Piano VST] Ravenscroft 220 VI - 06/23/22 09:58 PM
All I can say is I try it every once in a while for a few minutes, then go 'meh' and just go back to the VI Labs Ravencsroft lol
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