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According to a certain lady-friend, Bosendorfer means "angry village" or "naughty villager".

This was confirmed by another lady-friend who is Dutch but fluent in German.

Both are more than capable of winding me up!

Does anyone know the real history of the name?

Kind regards

Adrian

"Angry village" and "naughty villager." Hmmmmmm, that sounds like a four word summary of the plot of "Till Eulenspiegel." Have you ever thought of getting a piano transcription of that piece for your new "angry" piano.

Best,

David

I am sure you know this, but Ignaz Boesendorfer founded the company and it was named for him.

There must be a colorful story behind his name, but I don't know it. I do know that his father was a Viennese cabinet maker. I know that doesn't help, but if you learn more, please post it. You have peeked my interest as well.

OK, I hauled out my Duden:

Boese: wicked; evil: Schneewittchen hatte eine boese Stiefmutter = Snow White had a wicked stepmother.

And Dorf = village.

So Duden agrees with Miss G, as it should!

Let's play some From the Beet field on the Wicked Villager wing.

I wonder where the wicked village is?

I used to have a teacher named Mrs. Allendorf I wonder if allen means anything. If it meant evil it wouldnt have suprised me!

Der Boese is the devil. Could "Boesendorf" possibly refer to heck?

In which case Adrian will be playing a bat out of heck -- or, more precisely, its wing.

"Bösendorfer" is about the same word as "villain."

I was hoping to unearth the origin of the name. I am aware that there is no perfect English translation of the meaning of the conjoined words that create the Austrian name, and it is likely that the language of the time would have had slightly different meanings whether in teh original Germanistic tongue (latin derived I expect) or the Anglo Saxon tongue of the time.

There must have been a reason why these vilalgers were angry!

Perhaps I have bought a piano with a villanous background.

Kind regards

Adrian

Rural people tended to look at urbanites as more likely to cause trouble. It is a classic struggle.

"There must have been a reason why these vilalgers were angry!"

I hope it didn't have anything to do with Renner actions.

A wicked village back in the 1500's would have had residents who were 'Anabaptists' or early Lutherans. I think they fled from Switzerland and ended up in Austria. Just a stab...

Well ... do you REALLY know what FAZIOLI means??



OK, OK... just testing.

I think it's Italian for the term "Face Lift".

Or fuzzy pasta?

Eric F: More likely the other way round. Switzerland (or rather the loose association of allied city states that it was at the time[1]) was the refuge of many non-conformist types, hence why Geneva was known as the Protestant Rome, and is still refered to in journalistic code today as "the city of Calvin." BTW are "early Lutherans" those who get up for the 0800 Sunday service rather than lying in and going at 1100 instead?


- Michael B[2].
[1] And in many ways, still is today.
[2] Who awaits the delivery of his own 'Angry Villager' at the beginning of next week .

The derivation of names is rather ambiguous ie; difficult to classify IMO.

It's like 'Rolls-Royce' a well known term that conjurs up excellance (generally)! I would say the name 'Bosendorfer' is far more well known for a superb piano than the original personal name. So the name now is famous like Sir Henry Royce's name is. Mr Rolls was the man with the cash.

Best of luck,

Alan

to WB :

I have a dream ...

that someday people will stop thinking about

italy (or italian) = pasta or pizza

Anyway, Fazioli does not mean anything in italian, it is just the founder name.

Luigi

My wife is a linguist and she says pronounceation of Bosendorfer with the umlaut on the first 'O' is spoken as "b'urr'sendorfer" with a 'round mouthed urr'. not the 'O' as in normal English phonetics. Hope I've got this correct.

Alan