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#787382 04/18/05 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by Brian Lawson, RPT:

Well my one and only post is ON Topic ! smile
When I read Frank's complaint about people using this as their own personal soap box, I immediately thought "that darn Lawson, ruined the CR for everyone".

BTW - you still going to come by and play the Bosie while you're in NYC???


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#787383 04/18/05 07:02 AM
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I'll be there to listen, you can play.


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#787384 04/18/05 07:09 AM
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I'm with you Jodi.


While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.
#787385 04/18/05 07:11 AM
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Darn.

I'm with Jodi.

Darn.

I will miss you all. Even those of you with whom I tangle from time to time....

Darn.

jf


"Make the pie higher." GWB
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If we don't meet again:

I'll miss you, yes all of you.
The CR has been an eye-opening experience for me.
I stayed away for years.
Then I jumped in and got hooked.

We all tend to hang out with people who are similar to us.
The CR has put all of us in touch with more of a cross section of the world.
This is good.
I have learned a lot.
Thank you for teaching me.

And to Frank.
Thank you for being as tolerant and patient as you have been.
To the degree I have contributed to the problem I will only say that I have argued for equality.
I have voiced intolerance only for intolerance.
If that is an agenda . . . I don't know what to say.

I'd guess a few people blame me for contributing to the end of the CR.
I felt I was trying to improve it.
There is no place for a place where people are ridiculed for how they were born.

May we all meet again.

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I will miss the CR. I am one of those people that stumbled on this place when I was looking to buy a piano for my wife for our 10th anniversary (OK, maybe the only one that falls into *that* category). Sure, I'm learning to play and love the instrument, but I've got many other hobbies that consume a chunk of my time. I know that my contributions in the PF are minute compared to the other experts here, and the last time I ventured there, it was more cut-throat than the CR. Since my participation there won't add much, I'm sure I will fade away.

It's too bad. I think of many of you as friends, or at least familiar personalities to interact with each day. I will miss you all.

Best of luck to you all wherever you go. If you see anything "ny1911" out there, you know that it is from me.


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There's not much left of me to tell.
I just got back up each time I fell.
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I find it interesting that CSG has shown up in the CR, after Frank's mention of talking to others who run "larger forums". CSG has mentioned his "larger forum" several times. He also doesn't like me very much, but that's another issue.

Rather than discuss what I think is going on here, I'll simply dust off my old forums, and the CR can continue on.

Pianos Inc. is back in business........

It will be a bit limited at first, because right at the moment I don't have the time to devote to it. But it will work good enough for now. And every one of you are welcome to use it.

See you in the new coffee room!

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Let me echo the "Darns!" frown

And we *just* added moderators. You don't want to consider letting the moderators have a little more of a go at honing their skills, Frank? It's seems a shame to not give a moderated coffee room at least a healthy whirl to see if it works. I was feeling very positive about the direction things were going in here.

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Frank, if you follow through with this, will you please give us some advance notice of the actual shut down date so that those of us who wish to maintain some off-PW contact can use the CR as a means of reconoitering before the screen goes blank?

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This really sucks.

Hey Jodi,
You know this kind of language is inappropriate here, right? laugh

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Well, I'm with Jodi, JF, etc.

DARN! CARP!

I guess I don't have to hold my tongue so much anymore, except out of some sense of decency.

Everything has deteriorated here. I went from spending huge chunks of time sharing expertise, answering questions to actually enjoying myself posting on subjects that interest me.
Yes pianos and music interest me, of course. But the noses are too high in the Pianist Corner, so I don't really discuss what music I'm working on, or fingerings there; and the piano forum discussions aren't really up my alley in terms of "interesting". I can only read about string covers and Dampp Chasers, and "can I put my piano on an outside wall" so long.
The PF has become a place where consumers can affirm each other that they don't need a knowledgeable dealer to educate them.
The people who know the most have become the enemy.

The CR was solice for me. A place to learn a LOT of things that AREN'T piano. I thought that was the whole point of its inception.
I've learned a lot from people here. It truly is the only place I hear what's going on in the world as I have absolutely no desire to start wasting my time reading the news.
Here I can talk with like minded people, and people who disagree, all in the same conversation. I can better understand what it is I truly think about something, by seeing a number of other viewpoints.

I'm very sad today.


Larry, please let me know how/if I can help you with your forums. I have about 15 hours a week that I sit in a chair attached to a machine and this place is one of the things that gets me through it. If that time can be spent doing something else productive then my mind will be off of things in a good way.
If I can help you with design, graphics, HTML, whatever please let me know. I'm not an expert at any of those things, but I'm happy to do whatever I can.

I'll miss all of you. A Lot. Even if I stick around or if you all stick around, things are changing and this place in general will be nowhere close to the same after it's all said and done. Mrs.KB was even starting to read here, and was getting caught into some of the discussions.

I've met Frank and I really like him a lot. I hope that these changes are right for him and this forum.

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I haven't been a huge CR poster. I never liked the shouting matches and didn't feel like getting down in the mud. My focus always was pianos, specifically in the PF, so the CR for me was more of a sideshow.

There are good people here, though, and I hope there will be a way of staying in contact.

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Another suggestion--as a courtesy, to all who have participated and have contributed over the years, it might be best to lock all topics on a date and archive the Coffee Room so that is still available by read-only access thereafter--but still available. Regardless of the ups and downs, there have been many very meaningful discussions there that have served a purpose and that can continue to do so for those who may wish to refer back to a point or a reference and follow up privately or elsewhere. That volume shouldn't generate too much bandwidth demand.

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well.. i hope everyone promises to be good and the coffee room just becomes decaffeinated.


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love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
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Frank did say that this was a family forum and many of the discussions here are not "family fare". I've thought for a long time that the Coffee Room should be password protected. You only get a password after you confirm your an adult i.e. Have a valid credit card.

But I've long grown weary of the CR. I'm just making the suggestion *again* for those of you who really like this place and are unhappy it's going.

Derick


Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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well.. i hope everyone promises to be good and the coffee room just becomes decaffeinated.
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But then we will argue if the Swiss water decaffeination process is the right one or not.

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Another suggestion--as a courtesy, to all who have participated and have contributed over the years, it might be best to lock all topics on a date and archive the Coffee Room so that is still available by read-only access thereafter--but still available. Regardless of the ups and downs, there have been many very meaningful discussions there that have served a purpose and that can continue to do so for those who may wish to refer back to a point or a reference and follow up privately or elsewhere. That volume shouldn't generate too much bandwidth demand.
Gave me an idea:

The Coffee Room DVD 3-Disc Set -- complete archive of the Coffee Room, nearly 10,000 threads and 200,000 posts, ten Gigabytes worth of the most brilliant social commentaries of its time, countless pictures of beautiful people and their pets, delicious recipes, good house keeping tips, and clever gardening tricks, all can be yours for the low-low-low price of $29.99 (+ tax, shipping, and handling).

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Ax you crack me, and Jodi I suspect, up.

Now I can read the same crap over and over and over.

:rolleyes:

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Ax, GREAT idea, you'll make millions laugh

Kenny, I love the new sig line!! thumb


Mark

New sig line in the works....
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