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I've been noticing lots of used Yamahas in my area.

They seemed to be priced at what the buyer paid for them, and I think this is on the high side. People are expecting to get back what they paid when they sell, and these are not enticing prices, and so I haven't bitten.

I have mixed feelings about Yamahas. The tone generally leaves me unmoved. I have tried out a few used ones from dealers and failed to respond to any of them, although I liked the action in the new C3 that I tried.

Here are a few:

1988 G2, 12K (dealer), I've seen these for 7K-ish privately
1993 C5, 15K, (private)
1999 C2, 13.5K (private)
2002 C3, 20K (private)

These all look overpriced to me, except maybe for the C5, which was recommended to me by my former tech and is not in an ad, but through word of mouth. Is it just me? Why should I consider a used Yamaha for not much less than a new Estonia? Or a lot more than one of the more up-and-coming new Chinese pianos?

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A new C3 will run you about $39K so the quoted price is 50% off what the buyer may have paid five or six years ago. I don't think this is especially high. Rick Jones' website has older C3's for around $17K (plus shipping). I think $15K for a 1993 C5 is a pretty good price, although not bargain basement.

I will refrain from offering opinions on so-called "up-and-coming" Chinese pianos, although I have not heard anything that suggests they have the consistency and quality of engineering that Yamaha has demonstrated over the years.

Unless the private parties say "firm," their asking price might be haggled downward a bit. Who knows, maybe even the dealer will 'deal.' In this economy pianos are probably not flying out of showrooms/doors.


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The prices would be high where I live, but ultimately the piano is worth what the buyer agrees to pay. I'm sure if you were ready to buy any of those you mention, the price could be negotiated down.

People will pay a premium for a good used Yamaha because if and when they re-sell it, they stand a good chance of getting back most of what they paid. Yamaha's hard-earned reputation inspires buyer confidence.

Still, if the sound doesn't move you , there's no reason to buy one at those prices or even much lower prices.


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I will go for the 1993 C5. You are getting a 6'6"!!
C3 is also a nice one. I don't think I will consider the C2 and G2 - overpriced.

Given all of them are approved by a tech, I would say you will judge to see whether you need a 6'6" with extra 5k or a near-new C3.

Of course, I believe there's still room to bring the price down!

Good luck with your search. smile

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Get the C5 and have it meticulously regulated, tuned and voiced.

Only if your space is limited, will you ever regret having so much piano.


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Space isn't a problem, I have room for a 9-footer.

It's financing that holds me back. I'd prefer paying cash. I am rabidly allergic to payments.

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2nd the motion on the C5. You get a lot of Yamaha at that size. Played one recently and loved the response. Amen on the payments! I doubled up my payments to get my piano done. The interest creeps up quick.


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C5. If checked out and given the thumbs up thumb by an RPT.

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Buy the piano, not the deal.

If you're not in love with a piano's tone, it has no value at all to you.

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I have mixed feelings about Yamahas. The tone generally leaves me unmoved. I have tried out a few used ones from dealers and failed to respond to any of them, although I liked the action in the new C3 that I tried.
Yamahas are very well built pianos and they certainly have stood the test of time - at least mecanically-technically speaking.

However, it takes more to build a piano that 'moves' you - so if Yamaha doesn't do it for you, you need to obviously look elsewhere.

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Why should I consider a used Yamaha for not much less than a new Estonia? Or a lot more than one of the more up-and-coming new Chinese pianos?
There's no reason to *not* do so as the market offers many new and increasingly more interesting choices today.

I would be surprsied if new Estonia prices were anywhere near to used Yamaha - that would be almost unbelievable - a complete no-brainer, actually totally absurd....

Try sometimes perhaps also some of the better new Chinese pianos such as Brodmann,Perzina,Heintzman and perhaps some others - the world's moving on and it's getting pretty wild out there.

No longer seems Sushi the only lunch in town..

Good luck!

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