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#450614 05/26/07 11:11 AM
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Any recommended recordings?

Obviously including the famous Rhapsody, the piano concertos .. other famous piano pieces .. etc.

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The authentic Gershwin plays Gershwin recordings. I also like Michael Tilson Thomas' Rhapsody in Blue.

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Not to be missed:

Earl Wild and the Boston Pops: Rhapsody, Concerto in F, "I Got Rhythm" Variations (really nifty music), American in Paris.

Jack Gibbons, one of my favourite interpreters of Alkan, recorded 4 CDs of Gershwin's piano music on ASV. The playing is top notch and there are some real treasures to be found.


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this one:

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1242755/a/Gershwin:+Piano+Music,+Songs+%2F+Joan+Morris,+William+Bolcom.htm

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Sam,

That's a really splendid recording with the Joan Morris songs as a bonus. The Jack Gibbons CDs I mentioned above do not have the Gershwin Songbook, so the Bolcom is even more indispensible. Cheers!


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Bassio: Here's

Gershwin plays Gershwin
WOW!

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Chopin’s music is all I need to look into my soul.
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A selection of song transcriptions have been recorded by Sergio Fiorentino, and I enjoy this CD a lot. A very intimate and private-session feel to these takes. They are matched with Concerto in F, the 3 preludes, and American in Paris (Concert Artist CACD 9234-2).

Leonard Pennario has a fantastic recording of the songbook also. A much different style compared to Fiorentino, Pennario is flashier and a showboater here which is the preferred approach to this material IMO. I have it on LP (EMI Angel DS-37359), not sure if it's been released on CD.

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Fazıl Say's Gershwin with Kurt Masur is extremely beautiful... I recommend it with all my heart.

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Frank Braley's Gershwin album is unmissable - virtually all Gershwin's solo piano output, including Daly's phenomenal solo version of An American in Paris.

http://www.amazon.com/George-Gershwin/dp/B0007ULBA6

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Originally posted by Bassio:
Any recommended recordings?
Obviously including the famous Rhapsody, the piano concertos .. other famous piano pieces .. etc.
I've recorded some Gershwin, but you won't find it on the open market...
So the next best is go to my videos on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ocsuFv0Sc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI_OfUpFh9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2l0BxDqMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-f4trbIts8
Enjoy,
Rami

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One of the most animated Rhapsody's I've ever seen/heard was by a Japanese pianist named Masanobu Ikemiya who's been running the Arcady music fest up in Bar Harbor for the past number of years. But I don't think he's ever recorded a solo piano version of it before. I'm going to be seeing him this weekend and if I can get him to do it, I may be able to remedy that and perhaps have something to post. He's really quite spectacular.

Another really clean and lively Gershwin interpreter whom I've seen only once before is named Richard Dowling. He's from NYC, I believe. He's got a pretty nice Gerswin CD out:

http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Low-Down-Richard-Dowling-Gershwin/dp/B00005N9Z9

As luck would have it, he's going to be presenting a Gershwin lecture and recital this weekend too. I'll try and record that too. Can't have too much Gershwin.

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Here's a link to Mas's performance which I uploaded last night. I talked at length with Richard Dowling today about the roll Mas adapted the arrangement from... according to Richard who's made a study of the matter, Gershwin couldn't fit the entire composition onto 1 roll so he split it up and shortened the notes so it would play back correctly at a lower tempo. But it's believed that the tempo markings printed onto the 2 rolls they ended up with did not reflect this. Anyway, everything Mas does, including positioning his mic stand, is an entertainment experience. Sorry for the audio quality on this but it's raw off the camera. I'm on the road and new to video. My digital audio recordings will be better once I get back to my home studio to process them. Hope you enjoy this for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oazQIdtBs3k

I also recorded Richard Dowling's informative Gershwin seminar earlier today and hope to carve it up and upload it soon.

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Here's a link to Mas's performance which I uploaded last night. .......Hope you enjoy this for now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oazQIdtBs3k

Howard
I went to this YouTube link and listen to it.
It is a terrible performance of the Rhapsody.
How can you play American music based on jazz, in a Romantic style which was over already by the time Rhapsody was composed...?
...and then all the bad notes and mess...
Do yourself a favor, listen to my arrangement/interpretation of Rhapsody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ocsuFv0Sc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI_OfUpFh9w
Best,
Rami

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Hi, Rami. I think a few folks, including me, would dispute your contention of this style of music being over... particularly those still composing and performing, not to mention the audiences at the sold-out performances all this week. And I've video'd and audio recorded them all so there will be many more to follow.

I got a chance up parse and upload about half of Richard Dowling's "Gershwin Rediscovered" seminar late last night. I had to chop it up into 11 segments and have upload 6 so far. My apologies for the audio quality in the church we used as the venue. Here's the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsCOWXlQxA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRB-7g_zTek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwih6ywD6mc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riuDAik-AmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz6h9tuBpgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhpgDby_eXo

Hope you enjoy these.

Howard

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I'm finally home after 2 weeks on the road and just got a chance to post the remainder of Richard Dowling's wonderful "Gershwin Rediscovered seminar which included live performances of six Gershwin preludes, a foxtrot-styled "Someone To Watch Over Me", plus an obscure piece entitled "Two Waltzes in C". Here's a link to the complete series of clips:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7AC7999A68445338


And may thanks to Richard Dowling for so graciously letting me do this. He's got to be one of the nicest guys anywhere. Should anyone want to find out more about him, or perhaps contact him, here's a link to his web site:

http://www.richard-dowling.com/

Howard

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First of all, Gershwin's music is not based on jazz at all. Most of the 'Rhapsody in Blues' are played in a style that is not in line with Gershwin's intentions. It has taken me several years to get it right. It is based on klezmer and ragtime. I have had many conversations with family members and experts in his life about this, as far as Anne Brown, during a visit in Norway. Anne was Gershwin's own personal pick to play 'Bess' in the original 'Porgy AND Bess'. I say 'AND Bess', because, originally, it was only 'Porgy'. After hearing Anne's beautiful voice, he decided to expand the role and include it in the title. What I am trying to share is that most post-Gershwin era pianists have decided upon themselves to do with Gershwin what many did to Chopin and other Romantic composers' music in the late 19th-early 20th centuries. Over-indulging in rhythmic figurations which deviate with what the composer intended. Michael Tilson Thomas, fortunately, does Gershwin's Rhapsody very well.

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For me, Previn is unmatched. He's the only one who (IMHO) knows how and when to swing. (I think the fact that he's a jazz pianist also helps.)


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Hey Jeffrey,
Maybe "based on jazz" was not the correct terminology. Meant to say "written in the jazz idiom/language". Some jazz musicians consider Gershwin as part of jazz history and development.
After all, he wrote the Rhapsody for the "king of jazz" and his orchestra...
Yeah, it took me a while too, to get it right and that was some 35 years ago... When I was young I used to play the 2nd Prelude like it was Chopin (what a "coincident" Gershwin's 2nd prelude and Chopin's...), but then I did away with the Romantic style for that...
"based on klezmer and ragtime" is a little overdoing it. Yes of course Gershwin was Jewish and grew up on Ragtime and loved it, and even though the Blues Scale is almost identical to one of the old Jewish modes, Rhapsody is a far cry from both. Besides, ragtime is one of the early forms of jazz.
BTW, the term "klezmer" as used today, is a relatively recent commercial invention, not used/known in Gershwin's time, or before.
Now-a-days it's used for calling a mixture of Jewish Europian music styles.
Originally it was what the players themselves were called. The translation of the word is: an instrument of song.
I think what you meant to say was "Jewish music".
There are other pieces, rather songs by GG which are so much more clearly influenced by ragtime.
The Jewish roots are found more easily in Porgy and Bess.
Example: "It ain't necessarily so" is a variation on the blessing "BARCHU ET ADONAI HAM'VORACH" (Hebrew pronunciation).
Many years ago, Anne Brown was at one of my concerts in Norway and loved my Rhapsody rendition. So did Leo Godowsky III who was present at a recital I gave in NYC a few years ago.
Cheers,
Rami

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Funny you should mention 'It Ain't Necessarily So'--I use that Hebraic allusion in my lecture/recitals on Gershwin! When referring to 'klezmer', it is in reference to the immigrants who came to the US and whose 'gypsy' style had an influence in Gershwin's musical language. For the most part, the 'Rhapsody' is traditionally harmonic with small blues inflections--it's the rhythmic motives that give it the popular feeling based on the dance rhythms of the time too. My point in the thread is that many take those rhythmic motives and swing them, jazz them up, bend them, twist them etc. It is much more straightforward and naturally beautiful if played as written with generous feeling, in the sound and phrasing.

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Hey Jeffrey,
Yeah, I also use 'It Ain't Necessarily So' to show the Jewish music influence in my concert lectures... I know other people who use it too.
This, for example, has nothing to do with what is referred to as Klezmer music, as mentioned before it is a blessing which comes from the prayers.
"the 'Rhapsody' is traditionally harmonic with small blues inflections"...
I wouldn't call it "small blues inflections", it is full of it in its themes and harmonies.
And of course it is full of complex jazz rhythms, way ahead of and much more advanced than the dance rhythms of the time.
Yes, many do various things to the Rhapsody, far beyond just jazzing up some rhythms...
"It is much more straightforward and naturally beautiful if played as written with generous feeling, in the sound and phrasing."
These are nice words, but like any interpretation, they are interpreted differently by different people.
Have you heard my Rhapsody, are you referring to it when saying what you do about jazzing it up...?
If you are, you'd be the first to say such a thing about my interpretation, as so far, and it's been many years now, I received only the highest praise.
Cheers,
Rami

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