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Giuseppe Anfossi
Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli
Renato Premezzi
Me! whome

Does anyone know anything further back that Anfossi? I googled but was unable to find anything.

{edit} Renato also studied with Isidor Philipp, Orazio Frugoni and Beveridge Webster {/edit}

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[b] Liszt & Mikuli (student of Chopin)
Moriz Rosenthal
Robert Goldsand
Veryl Zech
yours truly!

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My teacher, Dr. Eric Street, also took from Goldsand.[/b]
Interesting. I wonder if Mr. Street and Mr. Zech knew each other.

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http://www.louisville.edu/library/music/coll/philipp.html

Isidore Philipp teachers at the Paris Conservatory include, George Mathias (pupil of Chopin), Theodore Ritter (pupil of Liszt), and Camille Saint-Saëns. From about 1900 to 1955 Philipp was a pre-eminent teacher of piano at the Paris Conservatory, at the American Conservatory of Fontainebleau, and in New York. Many of Philipp's students became celebrated pianists, conductors, composers, and teachers. Notable are: Aaron Copland, Guiomar Novaes, Wilfrid Pelletier, Albert Schweitzer, Alexander Tcherepnine, and Beveridge Webster

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Found this pdf file.

http://www.popso.ch/common/documents/michelangeli_eng_3.pdf

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pupil Renato Premezzi
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Moncalieri on 30th
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I can go through Leschetizky and Liszt:

Me
Frank Weinstock
Claude Frank
Artur Schnabel
Leschetizky
Czerny
Beethoven

or

Me
Robert Weirich
Emil Danenberg
Eduard Steuermann
Busoni
Liszt
Czerny
Beethoven

Not sure which one I like more, but both are cool.

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Very foggy but:

My fathers studied under a man who studied under Rachmaninoff, I need to ask him about the soecifics. My father never tought me the piano though, so I don't know if that counts.


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Another photo of Renato walking with Michelangeli in Italy.

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Renato is to the right of Michelangeli.

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Wojciech Zywny (1756-1842), Chopin's only formal teacher, at 73, from a minature Zywny had painted as a present for Chopin in 1829. Zywny was a kind, witty, and sartorially eccentric violin virtuoso, who generally spoke in a mixture of German, Czech, and Polish. Intitally a friend of Chopin's father, he was a welcome fixture of the Chopin household before and after he was Chopin's teacher. Zywny lived to be 86.


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There are several genealogical "paths", but here are two of my favourites smile

Ludwig van Beethoven
Karl Czerny
Teodor Leszetycki
Mark Hambourg, Leonid Kreutzer
Boris Berlin
DrCharlene Biggs
Me

Chopin
Emile Decombes
Alfred Cortot
Yvonne Lefebure
Janina Fialkowska
DrKristina Szutor
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Yep, about the same as ALL of the above with Egon Petri and Annette Yessipova thrown in for good measure...

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In one issue of The Etude pictures of famous pupils of Leschetizky and Liszt were given with Beethoven and Clementi as the 'forefathers' of the group with Czerny next and the students of Liszt on one side and Leschetizky on the other. It's interesting how the lineage dovetails so that many present day pianists revert to these two major teachers of famous students. My teacher in Honolulu gave me a copy of this page from The Etude but I'm not sure I could upload it here. I have no idea what issue of the magazine it appeared in either! confused

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Originally posted by Brendan:
I can go through Leschetizky and Liszt:

Me
Frank Weinstock
Claude Frank
Artur Schnabel
Leschetizky
Czerny
Beethoven

or

Me
Robert Weirich
Emil Danenberg
Eduard Steuermann
Busoni
Liszt
Czerny
Beethoven

Not sure which one I like more, but both are cool.
Did Busoni study regularly with Liszt?

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Bio of Busoni gives his parents as his first teachers then Schmidt in Vienna, Dr. Wilhelm Mayer at Graz. Another bio gives his parents again and W. A. Remy. No mention of Liszt is made in either bio except for transcriptions of Liszt's works.

Perhaps he attended some of the classes but it isn't considered enough to classify him as a Liszt student? Hm . . . .I'm sure some eager pianist will research that information! smile

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accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

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Bio of Busoni gives his parents as his first teachers then Schmidt in Vienna, Dr. Wilhelm Mayer at Graz. Another bio gives his parents again and W. A. Remy. No mention of Liszt is made in either bio except for transcriptions of Liszt's works.

That's also what I've found. His mother was Anna Weiss - I'm going to see what I can find about her.

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Postscript to earlier post: Dr. Wilhelm Mayer and W. A. Remy are one and the same I found out. Not sure why the nom de plume as one of the names is--most likely. And, yes, Ann Weiss was a well-trained German pianist.

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But these links don't mean anything, do they?
I'm not positive, but I believe the idea is, the shorter the better.

My tree:

Me, just me


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Do they mean anything--the links to teaching predecessors? Yes, as the students perpetuate the standards and methods of those particular influences as a continuing legacy. In one sense, that's why students seek particular teachers as they have the qualities the student seeks.

Some are lucky and fall into a wonderful teaching legacy while others are not so fortunate.

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Ludwig van Beethoven

Karl Czerny

Vasily Safonov

Josef Lhevinne

Rosina Lhevinne

Daniel Pollack

La Vaun Beyer

ME!


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Out of the three teachers I've had I only know one.

Haydn
Beethoven
Czerny
Lechititsky
Schnabel
Shaak
Mallery
Me

That was my teacher just before my current, now I'm curious I'll have to ask my current teacher at my next lesson.

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