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Originally Posted by Sonepica
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"Music, rich, full of feeling, not soulless, is like a crystal on which the sun falls and brings forth from it a whole rainbow" - F. Chopin
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It is well known that Scriabin was seriously influenced by Chopin. His early works are incredibly Chopinistic. For example he wrote his Op. 11 twenty-four preludes as a kind of shadow-self of Chopin's Op. 28. It's like he digested all of Chopin and passed it through a late-Russian Romantic prism. The connection between Op.8 no. 9 and the Chopin 3rd Scherzo is sort of there, but there are way way closer connections with other Scriabin/Chopin. BUT once you get to late Scriabin, and even middle, he has completely taken on his own voice. Listen to his sonatas from number 3 and on. Then you get stuff like Prometheus, Poem of Fire or the Poem of Ecstasy, where he really goes into left field with his obsession of the "mystic chord" harmony and abandons his very conventional formal structure, like standard period/sentence phrasing that you see in his early works.

Believe me, as someone who is obsessed with early Scriabin, he definitely had a captivating original voice from the start, but he did not become his undeniably unique self until he grew out of his "Chopin phase."

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Although I have not listened much to the poems/Prometheus/symphonies, I have to admit that when I did try they didn't make much sense to me. Does anyone disagree or have any recommendations for getting to like them?

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Although I have not listened much to the poems/Prometheus/symphonies, I have to admit that when I did try they didn't make much sense to me. Does anyone disagree or have any recommendations for getting to like them?

I recommend listening to the Agerich recording of Prometheus. It's kind of a piano concerto, there's a huge emphasis on the piano. Scriabin initially wrote the work for a "light organ" which was only ever really prototypical. The idea is that the light organ plays notes that present colors and a whole light display, as part of the performance. I think the work was premiered at Carnegie Hall right not long before his death, and after that, very few major performances have attempted to honor the magnitude of his desired light display. The video I'm thinking of with Argerich is pretty old at this point, but it's Martha after all (and I think Abbado conducting?) so it's definitely worth watching.

Late Scriabin is dense and can be overwhelming. But remember, he's a very well-trained and structured composer, he just got very into chromaticism and interesting harmonies. If you listen to his later music enough times, you'll discover it's actually very well put together, just like his earlier music.

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Originally Posted by Sonepica
Although I have not listened much to the poems/Prometheus/symphonies, I have to admit that when I did try they didn't make much sense to me. Does anyone disagree or have any recommendations for getting to like them?


The opus 32 poems are very interesting. They are still in a rather comprehensible style. I am not a fan of his later compositions like the opus 72, but there are people here who would certainly be more convincing than I am.


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