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No doubt about that. That said, I appologize if what I am going to say sounds a bit hard , ... but it seems to me that your technical skill level far exceeds the expressive capabilities of your piano. I dont know if you are in a situation to change, but that is something I would consider in the future. Maybe your recording set up has something to do with it as well, but my guess is that the piano itself has a major role. Well thank you but I am about to leave home and my piano behind somewhat soon (hence the frenzy of recordings I am making nowadays). So if anything I will have to play on a digital which will be even worse. :s Nemaara
Really looking forward to hearing your updated recording—- I’m convinced it will be awesome 😊 Thank you, also relevant comment above which is maybe somewhere off in the future, maybe in a couple months if I can fit it in in time. No rush., We’ll still be here,
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Actually, it is impresssive that you can play "parts" of the fast sections as fast as you do - BUT the current speed is too fast for you to "control" all of these passages without sounding frenetic and jumbled (right and left hands simply aren't together). I recommend that you 1) slow down, 2) only play as fast as your weakest hand will allow, and 3) try to find and communicate the music in the score.  Carey, I respectfully disagree with both you and Mark. I don't get the sense that any of the fast passages are out of control. Quite the contrary, they seem to be executed with preternatural accuracy as far as I can tell, which bespeaks a phenomenal technique, especially for a non-professional. Neemara, I notice that none of your YouTube recordings show you performing in person. I for one would love to see your piano playing in full flow. Any chance you could make a proper video. We all know this music well, so we don't really need to follow the score!
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[quote=Carey]....I don't get the sense that any of the fast passages are out of control. Quite the contrary, they seem to be executed with preternatural accuracy as far as I can tell.... I didn't mean anything about accuracy!
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[quote=Carey]....I don't get the sense that any of the fast passages are out of control. Quite the contrary, they seem to be executed with preternatural accuracy as far as I can tell.... I didn't mean anything about accuracy! Understood, but I meant in general (control) and specifically (not losing control, i.e. playing without errors). What you said: "It still needs to be in a certain kind of control." That's what I was disagreeing with. I agree with what you said, but I don't think it applies here.
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Simon - I clarified my original comment by pointing specifically to parts of the final agitato section. The OP listened to Zimmerman's playing of these passages and agreed with me. I just listened to the OP's recording again and I agree with me too. 
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SiFi: How about if I say "frantic" instead of anything "control"..... That's what I meant: Frantic in a way that makes it seem like it's not in control -- meaning, in this case, that it's not how the person meant it to go.
....which I'm guessing was so. If not, then not.
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Carey, I respectfully disagree with both you and Mark. I don't get the sense that any of the fast passages are out of control. Quite the contrary, they seem to be executed with preternatural accuracy as far as I can tell, which bespeaks a phenomenal technique, especially for a non-professional.
Neemara, I notice that none of your YouTube recordings show you performing in person. I for one would love to see your piano playing in full flow. Any chance you could make a proper video. We all know this music well, so we don't really need to follow the score! Thanks for the praise! The thing is I'm camera shy. I already play worse musically on recording, brain tends to focus on getting notes right rather than playing music once I know a mic is in place. I usually don't react well once I know there's a cam. Funny enough playing live is a lot easier as long as I'm not aware of the camera or mic pointed at me. Simon - I clarified my original comment by pointing specifically to parts of the final agitato section. The OP listened to Zimmerman's playing of these passages and agreed with me. I just listened to the OP's recording again and I agree with me too. Yes I still agree with you too.
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Simon - I clarified my original comment by pointing specifically to parts of the final agitato section. The OP listened to Zimmerman's playing of these passages and agreed with me. I just listened to the OP's recording again and I agree with me too. With that qualification now understood, I guess I agree with you too.
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I think the fast sections are played faster than even most top pros play them. I was shocked when I heard them. So I think that means they are too fast. That was my first thought when I heard those passages.
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