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#3203545 03/24/22 12:24 AM
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Hi guys, I am wondering if putting foam panels on the walls/ceiling would do anything for the piano echo and if you even want echoes.

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Speaking as an audio engineer, yes, acoustic foam in the right places will “dry up” the reflected sound in your room and help you hear the actual sound from your piano. I’m just a beginning pianist but I’ve heard others speak to how important it is to be able to hear the individual notes, and the echoes in a room smears them and makes this harder.

You can also use rugs, couches, and other furniture to soak up the echoes.

If you are recording, you want the sound to be as dry as possible, unless you like the character of your room and would want that in the final recording. It’s hard to take “echoes” out after the fact.

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Interesting.
Thanks for the info.
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Yes, but you are opening a can of worms.

Thin / cheap panels only reduce high and mid frequencies. If you are having problems with bass / room modes, you need thick panels / bass traps. I made some thick panels for behind my monitors, above my keyboard, and a big stack in the corner where my keyboard is. It worked well to reduce the specific 'room mode' problem I faced in my specific room. Combined with careful parametric eq I'm happy with the result. Without the acoustic treatment and eq I had some very loud distracting notes in the bass.

You can make your own. Choosing the right materials is difficult. You need heavy dense and porous materials. Typically extra dense fiberglass or rock-wool insulation is used. I used a whole load of 2" thick recycled compressed cotton panels. The stuff you need it hard to source and expensive to ship.

https://www.gikacoustics.com/how-bass-traps-work/
https://www.acoustimac.com/


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I've made some portable ones out of Safe-N-Sound Insulation (rockwool) and 1x4 lumber. I mounted them on casters so I could wheel them about the room. Placed in the correct locations, which require some experimentation, you can definitely reduce some echo.

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Thanks everyone
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Probably Blue, are you looking to solve a specific issue you're experiencing right now, or just thinking about future possibilities?


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Future possibilities.
Like if I had a studio I guess.

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Acoustic foam is overrated, and is not worth its elevated price IMO, its effectiveness is very low. Ideally you would use 4" thick panels made from OC 703 or rockboard 40 for frequencies above 100 Hz instead of acoustic foam.
Ideal panel placement is at first reflection points for a listener.
Basstraps (floor to ceiling) in room corners would be very helpful against boomy bass, especially if you have concrete or brick walls, but are more expensive and take more space.

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They do make nicely styled tiles which elevate decor; mounting them on rockwool battens is a diy step you can take if the Problems you’re solving are major and you need to get it into recording condition. If you’re just trying to dull the sound of the room for casual use, you probably don’t need to go all out.


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