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Hi everyone,

On the search for my new piano, I tried the Schimmel ( from 2007 I guess) and found it really nice, keyboard was precise and very easy to play !

Sound wise, although bass wasn’t as “ dark and deep “ as I would wish, I enjoyed the way overall sound came to my ears and filled the room.
Better than a brand new Yamaha C3X I played next to it.

But when I wanted to gather some information I had nos success.
I even tried to ask questions on the Schimmel website…
Nobody answered… are they dead?… ;-)

I didn’t find anything on the internet either…

Would some of you have information on this piano?
Reviews?
Documentation?

Was it a high end piano , or just a “ consumer” one?
I would really like to know better about it

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I suggest you contact the Schimmel distributor, the email address appears at the top of this review from brand profiles.
I found them very helpful.(when the piano was manufactured, etc) I think his name is Rob Slayman.
https://www.pianobuyer.com/brand/schimmel/

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Rolex67 - Schimmel seems to change things up more than some other manufacturers, so I understand your confusion about the particular model. If you search the old threads for ‘schimmel 182t,’ you will find some threads that discuss the model. I’m not sure how helpful they will be, but it’s a place to start.
One of the posters here, terminaldegree, always has a lot of useful information and insights on Schimmels. Hopefully they will see your post and comment. If not, you could try sending a PM.

I would say that regardless, if this is a piano that interests you, you should hire an independent technician to assess it, so that you have more information about its current condition. Good luck and happy shopping!

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Here’s a really early review I wrote that had one among the pianos tried:

https://www.pianobuyer.com/article/review-performance-grade-value-pianos/


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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Here’s a really early review I wrote that had one among the pianos tried:

https://www.pianobuyer.com/article/review-performance-grade-value-pianos/

I believe the SP182T predates the split in Schimmel C and K lines. My mother had one for about 20 years before I helped her selling it/trading it in two years ago. When researching this I read somewhere that the quality of the SP182T is considered in between the C and K lines.

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The SP182T was an excellent and popular model for us in the early 2000's. Please check the age of the SP182T that you tried, because, to my knowledge, they were out of production before 2007. In fact, it was ~2007 or so that the Classic series of grands was introduced which was the C182 and C208. Also nice instruments, but the build quality of the SP182's was higher before the series became split.

The build quality of the late SP182's (very late 1990's - early 2000's) was equal to the build quality of the Konzert series. The distinction is that in the Konzert series, the designs improved. Later introduction of different series let to different production tiers and different (but relatively speaking, still high) quality levels.

The SP182T was one of the better and more competitive 6' grands in its day. We enjoyed great success selling them against new Steinway L's from that same timeframe with better performance in many cases, always better fit and finish, and certainly a competitive price.


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Thank you so much, guys for your prompt and helpful answers.

Just for the record:
I sent a mail to Rob as suggested by tre corda.
He kindly and promptly proposed his help, asking me the serial number to be more specific.

And in parallel I ve just received an e-mail coming from the sales manager
export in Germany saying that:
as a piano manufacturing, they are not able to publish information on older instruments, in contrast to the current piano models, etc, etc….
Suggesting me to contact my local dealer…
Does she know that a local dealer is… local? and sells kawai, yam, seiler, etc, etc…And the best way to have “ historical info “ from my point of view is to contact the manufacturer itself.

Hahaha!!!
Am I asking the security codes for a nuclear bomb? …..

I just answered to her that kind of e-mail doesn’t give a good image of her company.
And perhaps she should learn something from Steingraebber for example….
Ok, they are not playing in the same league…
;-)

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And perhaps she should learn something from Steingraebber for example….
Ok, they are not playing in the same league…
;-)[/quote67]

I agree one expect more communication.If you were asking for direct comparisons of past models related to thier newer better modern models (Classic and the Konzert models) this may involve some work for them.They would need to make use of a person suitability qualified to talk about the design changes (of the different models over the years), perhaps master technicians. Perhaps consult spreadsheets of specifications of both old and new.Try to give you as objective and truthful advice as possible.I know CBECHSTEIN does this but charges a small fee.There are 3 or 4 different models made by Bechstein.

As manufacturers go Schimmel is a large factory making many models which differ in quality.Sometimes less and often much more so depending on the model.They are not alone in this, think of a large manufacturer like Yamaha.Yet trying to find out about models which were not not made for use in North America is almost impossible.All you hear about from them that they will not supply parts for these pianos and that these instruments are not meant for the North American climate.Sometimes it's a case of tripping over thier own success.(as someone once said)
Steingraeber--- no, Schimmel are not them and least we do NOT have to pay those prices! 😉 Schimmel Classic and Konzert models are still highly rated European pianos (see map of piano ratings by Larry Fine)and loved by many. Steingraeber is not as large a company as Schimmel nor Bechstein.I can think of another manufacturer which is also a small European company where you could find out a certain amount of details quite quickly, still it is much easier if you make far less pianos to have specific details of the specifications and of the quality in comparison to modern models from different dates.It can be difficult to find the well with healthiest, purest water sometimes.

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Thank you again for all of your answers.
Finally, Rob found an advertising ( 2 pages, featuring a photo of the larger piano) from that era, indeed, the piano is not from 2007 but around 1997 .
It’s a pity internet was at the beginning.
Apparently, Nothing has been saved.
And for sure, Schimmel Germany is not really “ open”….

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It is not reasonable to expect information or updates from a product sold 25 years ago.

If you have the serial number you can figure out its age real easy.



Schimmel serial #s


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Originally Posted by Learux
It is not reasonable to expect information or updates from a product sold 25 years ago.

If you have the serial number you can figure out its age real easy.



Schimmel serial #s
I agree!, and they do have a good distributor who is willing to be helpful.

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Originally Posted by Learux
It is not reasonable to expect information or updates from a product sold 25 years ago.

If you have the serial number you can figure out its age real easy.

With that being said, about 18 month ago I contacted August Förster about my current piano and they told me where the piano was delivered.

Confirming the seller's story.


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The same goes for my Schimmel K132.When the piano was delivered to the dealer was made known.(manufactured 2016/2017) But then mine was not 25years old.


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