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Unless she is desperate to move it out.( giving her the benefit of the doubt) 😉 I would be careful about responding.
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The "Hello, How are you doing today?" is the first red flag, and a big one. Most all telemarketing scams start with "Hello, how are you doing today"...  On the other hand, I do know that some people have given away very nice pianos for free, for whatever reason. It can and does happen, but rare as hen's teeth, usually. Scammer, scammer, please go away you're like ravening wolves looking for prey or crooks looking to steal day after day hate to say it, but if I had my way they'd all be locked up in jail yea, that would make my day  Rick
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You can find out quickly if it is a scam: ask to make an appointment to come see the piano.
"Music, rich, full of feeling, not soulless, is like a crystal on which the sun falls and brings forth from it a whole rainbow" - F. Chopin "I never dreamt with my own two hands I could touch the sky" - Sappho
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You can find out quickly if it is a scam: ask to make an appointment to come see the piano. I’m not a fan of Craigslist. Once, while looking for a rental in Pittsburgh, a Craigslist ad showed a picture of a house and gave an address. The trouble was that the house did not exist in Google Maps and we could not find it when we walked up and down the street. The guy who listed the property was of no help. It was a scam.
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On the other side, I have bought two pre-owned pianos from CL and was very pleased with both. I do recognize there are scams— you just need to be careful
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I know this scam. They will say that you need to pay beforehand for shipping because it can’t be scheduled unless it’s paid ahead of time. And…….that’s about it. You pay, and a piano never comes. If you say that you can arrange shipping yourself, they’ll say it’s taken.
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I got a New Bigger one and want to give the old one away . Where is the New Bigger one? (And what's with the odd capitalization?) Where is the newer one? I'm hearing in my head, "Scam Scam Scam Scam, Lovely Scaaaammm, wonderful Scam" (sung to the tune of Monty Python's Spam Song...)
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I’ve also seen the scam where “My father passed away and I want to give his piano to a worthy student. I’m in the process of moving, but my mover has agreed to load the piano and will deliver it to you after my move. You just need to pay me for shipping.”
There’s a lot of variations on the theme, lol. Be careful out there!
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Check out the punctuation, capitalization, and syntax. Beware! (I notice Jessica is happy to accept cryptocurrency for this "free" piano . . .)
1932 Mason & Hamlin A9 1877 Blüthner 185 cm Patent Aliquot grand 1883 Henry F. Miller pedal upright Edward L. Kottick double-fretted clavichord Lyndon Taylor double-fretted clavichord
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Check out the punctuation, capitalization, and syntax. Beware! (I notice Jessica is happy to accept cryptocurrency for this "free" piano . . .) An opportunity for a scam of your own.
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(I notice Jessica is happy to accept cryptocurrency for this "free" piano . . .)  I noticed the same!
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On the other side, I have bought two pre-owned pianos from CL and was very pleased with both. I do recognize there are scams— you just need to be careful 
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An opportunity for a scam of your own. LennieBux. Minted out of Rocky Mountain fresh air, never more than five in circulation.
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Ret, I bought my treasured 1877-80 Blüthner following up on an ad on CL (following inspection and approval by a most highly qualified technician, of course.) The "dealer" accepted cash only. That was a helluva wad of $100's I walked in there with! I've never looked back.
1932 Mason & Hamlin A9 1877 Blüthner 185 cm Patent Aliquot grand 1883 Henry F. Miller pedal upright Edward L. Kottick double-fretted clavichord Lyndon Taylor double-fretted clavichord
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Way back when, my dad sold a car that way. Classified ad in the paper, two buyers showed up. One with a checkbook, one with a stack of 100s. Bidding on the 1939 Lincoln Zephyr convertible, V12, in our garage. Probably worth more today than what he got, but he'd pulled off a lot of the bodywork and never really figured out how to move beyond that.
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Way back when, my dad sold a car that way. Classified ad in the paper, two buyers showed up. One with a checkbook, one with a stack of 100s. Bidding on the 1939 Lincoln Zephyr convertible, V12, in our garage. Probably worth more today than what he got, but he'd pulled off a lot of the bodywork and never really figured out how to move beyond that. I see one went recently for $123k. We’ve all probably lost money by not holding onto things longer but, we don’t live forever, and sometimes you just want to be rid of things. My father restored old John Deere tractors. He always finished his restorations and he did beautiful work. When he died, he left my mom with a small collection of tractors. What use does an eighty year old woman have for farm tractors? The answer is, none. My brother wanted to keep them all but he would have let them rot back into the ground, so, the job fell to me to sell them, and sell them I did, on websites dedicated to antique farm tractors. My father had sold one tractor to a buddy and that guy never restored it. He recently died and so, that tractor is still sitting in the backyard. We have dreams and then reality hits. I don’t know how we’ll ever get rid of that thing. I guess we’ll have to hope some relative of the guy picks it up. My mother had to deal with my father’s collecting mania her whole life. My brother collected too, mainly junk over the road trucks and a useless dozer, which all had to be sold when nothing got restored. My mother famously buried an engine block in the backyard when she got tired of looking at it. She dug a hole and tipped it in. I don’t think my brother noticed the engine block had disappeared for six months.
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A I can say is that it must be working otherwise they wouldn't waste time trying it. In fact, the fact that they've altered it slightly to mix it up, and increased their frequency and scope argues that it's a cash cow and (logic challenged) people are falling for it.
EDIT: I will publicly admit that I fell for it ONCE (of course I didn't send money, but did respond). Soon realized the scam nature...end of story.
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Yeah, they probably just moved, you know?
And such high quality photos too, must be legit! 😂😂😂
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