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I was sight reading the Sarabande from French suite no. 6 and saw this: ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/xv3Yn6w.jpg) I initially thought the line was to divide the hands but the second one has two lines. What's the purpose of those lines?
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Mine (Barenreiter) looks like this: ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/GQdjyJ1/bach.jpg) so don't know. Does have a different morden though.
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From IMSLP (also Barenreiter): ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/1QLh9zQ/french.png)
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and Altnikol's (not in G clef): ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/YLq6Jg3/french.png)
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Mine is Henle. They say the primary source is the Vogler copy and the turn is only present in the Gerber copy.
I also noticed that the chord notes are not aligned. Maybe they aren't supposed to be played together? The squiggly line seems to support that.
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I also noticed that the chord notes are not aligned. Maybe they aren't supposed to be played together? The offset is to indicate separate voices. So you got voice 1 with stem pointing up, voice 2 with stem pointing down. Voice 3 would have been indistinguishable from voice 1 because the stem points up also, so to indicate it's different voice the note head is offset. So it's a 3 on the RH - the dividing lines probably are supposed to emphasize that, but it's not consistent as they're not applied to the LH.
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OK, I found the answer at the beginning of the book: ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/tL2lkWr.jpg) It seems this is a sort of ornament where you arpeggiate the chord and add some passing tones. But which ones? Do I play D-sharp and G-sharp as that is where the lines are?
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Just found it in Dannreuther (worth downloading from IMSLP). It's french, called a coulé. Upward an ascending appoggiatura, downward a downward appoggiatura: ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/WyVvfCS/dann.png) Bach's famous table of ornaments was nicked from Couperin. He obviously went for French ornaments.
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...and more: ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/S7TypNm/coule.png)
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It is a figurate arpeggio, meaning that you should play it like an arpeggio sustaining the written notes and insert intermediary (usually local diatonic) notes in between the written ones but without sustaining them.
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Barenreiter do say all the ornaments are probably spurious so I wouldn't sweat over them.
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Barenreiter do say all the ornaments are probably spurious so I wouldn't sweat over them. In fact the autograph from JSB is very incomplete, large parts of suites 1-3 are missing and suite 6 is missing entirely. And even for those that are present, only some mouvements seem to be in a fair copy state. Many mouvements are obviously in an incorrected state that shows that Bach was still working on them. Therefore all urtext modern editions consider and use several sources of which primarily copies of pupils which are considered to include revisions made by Bach at a later stage. There is no autograph copy for suite 6, therefore there are 2 main sources, the Altnikol copy and the Vogler copy (with additions from some other copies like Gerber). They are all extremely close to each other which does seem to support the idea that they are taken from Bach. The NBA has published the 2 versions, the one from Altnikol has much less ornaments. Most editions use the Vogler copy including Barenreiter, Henle, ABRSM. The Vogler copy seems quite reliable as for the suite 1, the Anna Magdalena copy and the Vogler copy are nearly identical. However there isnt any proof that any of these sources are a direct copy of Bach version, one could very well consider that parts of the suite itself could be spurious. Though it is not the position of experts but with documents so old, a doubt always remains. The ornament is fairly rare in Bach keyboard works but there are some in his english suites and the partita, for example the sarabande of partita 6. There are present in his autograph so we know he did use it.
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