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Hello,

@ronlefebvre,

- Make sure to have both circles immediately left of 'SORDINO PEDAL' activated (i.e. samples loaded and sordino function switched on);

- Probably, you'd want to disable 'SOFT PEDAL';

- Find out which CC number your CA79 outputs to MIDI when you depress the left pedal;

- Then, in the little pedal drop-down menu (where by default it says 'Sustain pedal') select 'Sordino pedal';

- In the CC field directly below that, enter the CC number you found the CA79 outputs for the left pedal.

This should do it.

Cheers and happy sordino pedaling,

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Yeah that's what I thought.

Not working at all. I don't get it.

Guess will have to try VI lab support and see if they have a solution

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Hello,

@ronlefebvre, I'm sorry to hear that. I just double-checked with two different brands and different types of pedals, connected to my PC through two different types of interfaces.

All works as I described with each pedal, no issues.

One more thing I can think of, is to make sure that the same CC number is *not* used twice (there are five pedal options in Modern U, so I mean to have unique CC numbers entered for each of them).

Otherwise, I do hope VI Labs can help you!

Cheers and good luck,

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That is it HZ

Had to switch the number even if the other pedals are not used. I should have thought of that.

Thanks

Ron

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Hello,

Good one, nice to 'hear'!

Cheers and happy pedaling,

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I got the Modern U yesterday. I am quite enjoying it. Still haven't found the perfect settings, but I am getting close!

One thing I can suggest to everyone to improve performance is tick the 'Use OpenGL Renderer' box. It helped a lot in my case. I think it loads the GUI on the graphics card and leaves extra performance on the CPU.

I was wandering if anyone would like to share their settings. I couldn't find any online, apart the 2 on this thread.

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Hello,

@karoloydi, Great that you're enjoying Modern U!

I like your OpenGL tip, I'll see if I have that checked. No idea, really. So thanks!

My settings are described in several posts in a different forum, starting from here:

https://pianoclack.com/forum/d/84-vi-labs-modern-u-review/10

Cheers and the happiest playing,

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@karoloydi, Great that you're enjoying Modern U!

I like your OpenGL tip, I'll see if I have that checked. No idea, really. So thanks!

My settings are described in several posts in a different forum, starting from here:

https://pianoclack.com/forum/d/84-vi-labs-modern-u-review/10

Cheers and the happiest playing,

HZ

Thanks!
Another tip:
To set the sympathetic resonance level, press one of the keys silently then hold it in place. Then press staccatto the key one octave higher than that (without sustain pedal). Then you can hear the sympathetic resonance of the note that you are silently pressing. This way and can adjust the level of sympathetic resonance a lot more accurately.

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Hello,

@karoloydi, Nice!

As it turns out, I didn't have the OpenGL rendering selected.

I didn't have specific performance issues but perhaps later today or tomorrow I can see if it enables me to lower buffers and latency a bit more (which currently is already good enough but would be nice of course).

Cheers and a good weekend,

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I didn't know about the OpenGL. I have enabled it. I don't notice any difference though. I guess that's a good thing if it increases the MacPro's performance?


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Hello,

Originally Posted by ˆTomLCˆ
I didn't know about the OpenGL. I have enabled it. I don't notice any difference though.

Oh I almost forgot I tried this tip too.

I use a Windows PC with an Intel processor with its internal on-chip graphics processor. The on-screen help text of Modern U says something along the lines of "Best left off with internal graphics". And indeed, the performance seemed slightly better *without* the openGL setting, but the actual difference was hard to call.

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Anyone knows if there's a way to increase the dynamics?
I can't get the effect I want from the gain velocity curve.
I want the notes to jump out when I press harder, like it does with Garritan CFX.

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Hello,

@karoloydi, the separate velocity and gain curves that Modern U offers are quite versatile.

For what you want, you can make either, or both, steeper.

The left (velocity) curve can be made steeper by pulling the upper-right corner little white arrow to the left. The right (gain) curve doesn't have such an arrow, but you can draw a curve with your mouse cursor and optionally finish that off with the "smooth" button.

From the top of my head, both curves allow freehand drawing and smoothing such out with the respective button.

With steep curve(s) Modern U can get rather snappy; whether that is realistic for this/any upright piano is another matter...

Cheers and happy experimenting,

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I am also very interested in the Modern U.
I already have the Ravenscroft 275 and couple other libraries which I don't use e.g. Grandeur, American Concert D, Galaxy Vintage D, Hammersmith.
The modern U has no classical examples.

@David: any chance you could play a small fraction of classical music? The Modern U sounds great with Jazz and Blues music but what about other music?
If not classical how about a Yann Tiersen or Luduvico piece as a different reference to blues / jazz?

If anybody could upload something like that it would be so much appreciated!

Thanks guys!


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Check carefully the audio demos on the Modern U website... Not only there are a few classical pieces, but some are even played by David Lai from this forum...

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Thanks vagfilm for letting me know.
I guess one will never know until buying... commonly referred to as GAS laugh


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Hello,

@lovelovemale, For some sweet classical examples on the Modern U, see this video and use the chapter list to jump to Modern U. The video is by fellow forum member Gamma1734.

In this video, he only uses one close microphone pair. The sound can be richer and fuller, with more body and wood, through adding in the Soundboard microphones. That is how I set things up, and to me is more realistic and enjoyable.

Yet, this video is excellent and gives you a nice impression.

Cheers and All the Best for 2022,

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Selling my copy of modern U if anyone interested, only just bought it but not for me.

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I also bought the Modern U and it's not my style of piano unfortunately, even though it's very accurately sampled.
If anybody wants to snatch it feel free to PM me.
I'd sell my license for $100.


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I think I'm really close to getting the sound I'm after. I had 2 issues; it sounded too thin on some of the higher notes and the dynamics were non-existent. I think made good progress with both issues. Adding 5% reverb also helped with the realism quite a lot.

The first instance is played over my monitor speakers.

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The second instance is played over my piano speakers:

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