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Hello,

I’m looking to purchase a grand piano with player system. I’m open to new and preowned options with the addition of a player. My budget is $20-30K. Which brands should I be considering?

In addition to the entertainment value of the player, I’d like my kids to take lessons. My wife is also interested in lessons.

Appreciate any advice you might offer. 😁

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Would you also consider digital pianos? Because if you're not averse to the idea, it actually may be quite suitable for beginners, and of course it also serves as a player (and more!)


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Useful information.....

https://www.pianobuyer.com/article/buying-an-electronic-player-piano-system/

A new Yamaha GB1K with Disklavier will fit within your budget. Note: Compared to other Yamaha grands, "the GB1K has simplified case construction and cabinetry, no duplex scale, and the middle pedal operates a bass-sustain mechanism. It does have a soft-close fallboard. It is currently the only Yamaha grand sold in the U.S. that is made in Indonesia."

https://solichmusic.com/pianos/disklavier/yamaha-dgb1kenst-pe/

https://www.pianobuyer.com/brand/yamaha/

Or you can go the used route and get a larger and much better (built in Japan) Yamaha acoustic with an older player system.

https://carusopianos.com/browse-pia...Wv_eqdG_ePAduaj_0GzdEV2Wy2xoCuQMQAvD_BwE

Or just go ahead and purchase the new Chinese built Ritmuller with QRS (which is probably a better acoustic overall than the Yamaha GB1K). smile


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Oh no… back to the Ritmuller debate. Thanks.

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Yamaha Disklavier is by far the best system.


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Originally Posted by J. Ash
Oh no… back to the Ritmuller debate. Thanks.

There are no "brands"of player pianos to consider other than Yamaha (Disklavier).

Beyond that, find an acoustic piano you like (new or used) and have a player system installed in it - unless you can find a piano you like with a system already installed. If you are concerned about "quality" try to focus on pianos built in the USA, Japan or Europe. Have any used piano you are considering evaluated by an independent piano tech.

Research and decide whether you want QRS, Pianodisc or Disklavier.

If Disklavier, contact your local Yamaha dealer (Keyboard Concepts?) and see what they either have in stock or can order for you. You can also contact Atlantic Music Center in Melbourne - which carries Yamaha and also has the 1997 Baldwin L I highlighted in the other thread.

Scan through used piano listings on Pianomart to see what is available nationally in terms of different brands of pianos with player systems. May give you some ideas.

https://www.pianomart.com/

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Check out the Mason & Hamlin Artist Series

Here is one at Freeburg's Piano in Hendersonville NC
and it has a player included

https://freeburgpianos.com/mason-hamlin-pianos-for-sale/mha-160-pianodisc/

PM if you are really serious about this and I will tell them to look out for your call.

They also have the Classic Series grand with a pianodisc as well
https://freeburgpianos.com/mason-hamlin-pianos-for-sale/150-classic-pianodisc/


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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
Check out the Mason & Hamlin Artist Series

Here is one at Freeburg's Piano in Hendersonville NC
and it has a player included

https://freeburgpianos.com/mason-hamlin-pianos-for-sale/mha-160-pianodisc/

PM if you are really serious about this and I will tell them to look out for your call.

They also have the Classic Series grand with a pianodisc as well
https://freeburgpianos.com/mason-hamlin-pianos-for-sale/150-classic-pianodisc/

Good suggestion - new kids on the block - from Pianobuyer: "In 2020, Mason & Hamlin introduced two new lower-priced series of pianos: Artist and Classic. They are made in China in partnership with Pearl River, and have much in common with Pearl River’s premium-quality lines. The Artist series models are equipped with high-performance WNG carbon-fiber composite actions and anodized aluminum action and keyboard hardware. The Classic series models have WNG shanks and flanges and the advanced action and keyboard hardware. The Artist series currently offers 5′ 3″ and 6′ 2″ grand models and 48″ and 51″ verticals. The Classic series offers 4′ 11″ and 5′ 6″ grands and a 47″ vertical. All models have solid spruce soundboards, and all grands have beech rims."

Note that the Pearl River premium quality lines include the Ritmuller Premium series. grin However, the M&H Artist Series WNG composite actions are well worth consideration.


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Originally Posted by Carey
There are no "brands"of player pianos to consider other than Yamaha (Disklavier).

I think Steinway has the Spirio system, but a new one would certainly be above budget. Im guessing most used ones will be above budget, too, especially as it seems they have only been around since 2016.

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I will say, my WNG action definitely holds regulation far better than any other piano I've had. If you're okay with a 170cm, I feel like the M&H Artist 170 is a really good deal for that reason alone (Pearl River pianos in my experience have been surprisingly good for how little they cost, and acceptable overall). However if you spring for the 188, you won't have enough money left to install a player system.

Just my opinion, but I would not buy a GB1K or any Samick/Young Chang.

The more budget friendly approach is to buy a used piano with player already installed. The resale value on a player system is quite a lot less than the cost of installing one new. The downside is you may need to travel or buy sight unseen, which you might not be comfortable with. I believe there is a major store in Florida called Atlantic Music Center selling a number of player pianos you could take a look at.

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Originally Posted by Sgisela
Originally Posted by Carey
There are no "brands"of player pianos to consider other than Yamaha (Disklavier).

I think Steinway has the Spirio system, but a new one would certainly be above budget. Im guessing most used ones will be above budget, too, especially as it seems they have only been around since 2016.
Which is why I didn't mention it in my post. grin


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