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I don't mind some music videos for classical music but I thought this one was kind of silly. Or is this what it takes to sell classical music? What do you think?

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I really dislike it— but it is probably what is now necessary to sell music.


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I like it.
I think it's, how to put it, kinda cool. grin

Even if I didn't, I'd love it for the playing, and the piece, which I never heard before. It's beautiful.
Thanks for posting it.

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The music is very good. I like the video too. But the piano is kinda close to the fire place. It makes me nervous.

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Well, if he decides he needs a career change, I wouldn’t advise him to take up acting or housekeeping. Maybe mushroom foraging?

The music was lovely but I found the video rather distracting, and I didn’t understand the story that the visual elements were trying to convey.

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Great playing. I like watching him play and the rest of it seems almost comically contrived. Let's put forth the most stereotypical 19th century idea of the mad artist!

One thing that really stood out to me is how long his fingernails are. Maybe he is so good at piano he needs a handicap so it doesn't seem too easy.

Oh, and I doubt this would sell anything to anyone other than maybe someone like me who loves the music and the playing. Fortunately, I can listen while minimizing the video so as not to have to look at it.


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I don't mind some music videos for classical music but I thought this one was kind of silly. Or is this what it takes to sell classical music? What do you think?
I think I need to show this vid to my teacher and ask why can’t I allow my DIP to collapse and play with the padding of my fingers when Trifinov is doing this throughout the entire video.


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It's obviously stupid. Are you really asking?

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I don't know about the video but he looked better with a light beard. Now he looks like a homeless man.

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I doubt it helps to sell anything. But it certainly contribute to promote Trifonov image. I think the classical music companies like DG start to imitate the pop business. Selling entire CDs of the Art of Fugue is complicated. But selling short extracts (though this one is already 11 minutes) promoted by a video is much easier. Seems like the classical music industry is also going into cutting pieces into smaller chunks more digestable by a larger audience. But I could be wrong.

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Trifonov attempted to complete the unfinished ending with his own composition.
Which is the video is about obviously.

It starts after 8:35 (?) I guess.

Do you find the ending added by Trifonov convincing?

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It sold me. I really want a Fazioli now.

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I think the playing is lovely, but the video is a little creepy. I am going to look for a recording without the dramatics. whome

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Originally Posted by Adagiette
I think the playing is lovely, but the video is a little creepy. I am going to look for a recording without the dramatics. whome

My sentiments, exactly. The video overwhelmed the music, IMHO


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Originally Posted by Hakki
Trifonov attempted to complete the unfinished ending with his own composition.
Which is the video is about obviously.

It starts after 8:35 (?) I guess.

Do you find the ending added by Trifonov convincing?

Yes bar 239 starts around 8:35 or 8:36. I think the ending is relatively simple and is also not exactly Bach style, it is more like a closing section, which is what many others have done. Trifonov has already reached the climax just before bar 239, so it is just closing the piece, which is fine. But I would expect a stronger development, something a little more elaborate. Either Goncz or even Tovey versions suits better the piece IMO.

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Another new ending.


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Originally Posted by Sidokar
I doubt it helps to sell anything. But it certainly contribute to promote Trifonov image. I think the classical music companies like DG start to imitate the pop business. Selling entire CDs of the Art of Fugue is complicated. But selling short extracts (though this one is already 11 minutes) promoted by a video is much easier. Seems like the classical music industry is also going into cutting pieces into smaller chunks more digestable by a larger audience. But I could be wrong.
Smaller chunks and silly gimmicks for folks with shorter attention spans. Welcome to the 21st century.


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Originally Posted by Carey
Smaller chunks and silly gimmicks for folks with shorter attention spans. Welcome to the 21st century.

I can understand how it comes across as silly. But Trifinov must have had to approve it, and probably was a part of its design, and I'm more than willing to come halfway for him. I'm not a composer, but in my own creative work I could relate in the mess he created around him to sleeping in the chair all messed up.

But aside from that, I don't think it's about breaking through short attention spans (which strikes me as a rather arrogant attitude) but rather trying to break through the noise of a pop-saturated cultural world. And isn't one way to do that is by showing something that is intriguing or even seducing to an audience that isn't normally attracted to the classical music world?

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It’s cheesy, but a lot of people like cheese. Maybe not people that frequent the Pianist Corner forum.

His playing is fantastic, though!

Also, while I just said many people enjoy cheese, I think it’s actually not needed to help classical music sell, but old-fashioned labels/companies like DG seem to still think so. Maybe I’m wrong, though.

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Even knowing that the video is an imagining about Trifonov's struggles to compose an ending, I found the video somewhat confusing. For example, what is the meaning of the part around 9:30 when he's in the woods and tears up a full sheet of music? Am I correct in understanding an earlier part of the video shows him not being able to find something in his room, and then a trail of bits of paper leading him to its location in the woods? What was he looking for?

Another strange thing about the video is that many people wouldn't be able to figure it out at all since they don't know this last fugue was not completed by Bach. There seems to be no explanation of that in the video.

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