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#3168781 11/05/21 01:39 PM
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Anyone know of a video that is an example of the following:

1 Steinway - brand new

2 Steinway - totally rebuilt factory certified by Steinway

3 Steinway - totally rebuilt by an expert but not Steinway Factory Certified

they should all be the same Model Size and Year (Golden Era Preferred - 1900 - 1940) for a fair comparison.

Let me know - would be very interested in hearing the differences?

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they should all be the same Model Size and Year (Golden Era Preferred - 1900 - 1940) for a fair comparison.


That would be awesome, but it's gonna be hard to find a brand new Steinway from the Golden Era! wink


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No Brand New would be 2021!
or were you joking?

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
No Brand New would be 2021!
or were you joking?

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Well, I’m being a little silly, but that tag at the end made it sound like all 3 should be from the golden age! wink


Although... if you could find a new piano in a time capsule, untouched by time, then you could do a pretty awesome comparison between it and pianos rebuilt in the factory and by top-notch third party rebuilders!


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Those 3 don't usually end up on the same floor at the same time because of the different agendas being served, as well as the relative rarity of current Steinway factory rebuilds. I have a fully restored Steinway D from 1970's and a nearly new 2015 Steinway D if you want to come down and make your own. It's a lot of work to make a really good demo video and even more to make a good comparison video.


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Since Steinway rebuilds, even for the same model from the same rebuilder, usually vary a lot and new Steinways also vary tremendously, a comparison like this is not IMO very meaningful. It would only be a comparison between those three particular pianos, and any generalizations would not be accurate.

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Since Steinway rebuilds, even for the same model from the same rebuilder, usually vary a lot and new Steinways also vary tremendously, a comparison like this is not IMO very meaningful. It would only be a comparison between those three particular pianos, and any generalizations would not be accurate.

It would be almost impossible to find a single dealer with all three, and only a Steinway dealership would normally carry the first two.

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Sam B - wish I could do that
IF I am ever visiting Atlanta - I will make sure I let you know I will be in that area!

So pianoloversrus - If I left it to you ALL comparisons are worthless!
You telling me all pianos are different is redundant!
Many of us on this forum understand that point - pointing it out endlessly is probably not needed

I still would like to hear the comparison of a
Certified Rebuilt Steinway by the Factory versus a Rebuilt by experts like (Pianoworks, Cunningham, Faust-Harrison or Freeburg's to name a few)

I would probably be happy/content if someone could find a YouTube video with Option #2 and #3 to compare - that would be the interesting
comparison.
I've heard so much fluff about how it needs to be a 'certified' rebuild because it will sound better!

just my thoughts/2 cents wink

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
Sam B - wish I could do that
IF I am ever visiting Atlanta - I will make sure I let you know I will be in that area!

So pianoloversrus - If I left it to you ALL comparisons are worthless!
You telling me all pianos are different is redundant!
Many of us on this forum understand that point - pointing it out endlessly is probably not needed

I still would like to hear the comparison of a
Certified Rebuilt Steinway by the Factory versus a Rebuilt by experts like (Pianoworks, Cunningham, Faust-Harrison or Freeburg's to name a few)

I would probably be happy/content if someone could find a YouTube video with Option #2 and #3 to compare - that would be the interesting
comparison.
I've heard so much fluff about how it needs to be a 'certified' rebuild because it will sound better!

just my thoughts/2 cents wink

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Hi Guy
Isn’t much of what you hear of needing a ‘certified’ Steinway rebuild actually Steinway marketing? I don’t remember many forum members here actually supporting that idea.


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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
So pianoloversrus - If I left it to you ALL comparisons are worthless! You telling me all pianos are different is redundant!
Many of us on this forum understand that point - pointing it out endlessly is probably not needed

I still would like to hear the comparison of a
Certified Rebuilt Steinway by the Factory versus a Rebuilt by experts like (Pianoworks, Cunningham, Faust-Harrison or Freeburg's to name a few)
The point is that Steinways, whether new, rebuilt by Steinway, or rebuilt by a good rebuilder tend to differ from each other more than most other makes. That's why comparing one sample of each is not good for making generalizations.

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Agree dogperson
not hearing it on here - but walk into a Steinway Gallery and that is ALL you hear! Agree (Steinway Marketing) LOL

but once again back to my original question!

Is there a YouTube video of a Steinway Factory Certified rebuild vs a Steinway Uncertified rebuild by a reputable rebuilder?

If anyone has seen one, let me know?

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There is a lot of variability in rebuilds, just as there is a lot of variability in new Steinways. The question is difficult to answer for me, because I have played ones from the SAME shop that were wonderful, or satisfactory, or maybe I didn’t like at all. What made them good/bad might be final prep, or construction/rebuilding elements executed by the rebuilder, or parts selection.

Although reputation might be useful for narrowing down a list of possible shops, it’s best to evaluate on a case by case basis.

Funny related story: For a piano rebuilder not mentioned in this thread, I had a teacher who loved the rebuild they did so much, that they’re featured among their marketing testimonials. I had another teacher who considered filing legal action against the same rebuilder because they were either disappointed in the quality of work done (in a way that could not be corrected without rebuilding the piano again), or misrepresentation of something about the rebuild they bought.


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