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#3166936 10/28/21 12:29 PM
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Has anyone every played thru the Hanon Virtuoso Book of Exercises.
Straight Thru, without skipping around?

Something I may attempt in the next few weeks!

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I did when I was young.
But I would not do it now.

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
Has anyone every played thru the Hanon Virtuoso Book of Exercises.
Straight Thru, without skipping around?

Something I may attempt in the next few weeks!

brdwyguy

Why? Go learn a new piece by Debussy instead, and you will have something for lasting enjoyment


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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
Something I may attempt in the next few weeks!

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Why would you attempt it? For what purpose? Along which strategy / strategies?

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Has anyone every played thru the Hanon Virtuoso Book of Exercises.
Straight Thru, without skipping around?Something I may attempt in the next few weeks!brdwyguy
Why? Go learn a new piece by Debussy instead, and you will have something for lasting enjoyment
Precisely, although it could be music by any great composer. I doubt many will be impressed by someone else playing the entire book. If you feel the need to practice exercises, just basic scales and arpeggios are probably far more beneficial.

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I did it many years ago and found it very beneficial. Just remember to play nicely with accents and play with your arm and not just fingers. If you do it right you may learn many useful auxiliary wrist movements from it.

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Czerny 8 bar exercises are so much fun to play always fresh, why bother with Hanon?

And in order not to hurt yourself you would need a teacher you will go with you for each exercise to check your movements and to tell you where you should focus.

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Has anyone every played thru the Hanon Virtuoso Book of Exercises.
Straight Thru, without skipping around?Something I may attempt in the next few weeks!brdwyguy
Why? Go learn a new piece by Debussy instead, and you will have something for lasting enjoyment
Precisely, although it could be music by any great composer. I doubt many will be impressed by someone else playing the entire book. If you feel the need to practice exercises, just basic scales and arpeggios are probably far more beneficial.


There was a reason Debussy was singled out, snd it’s quite simple: the OP likes Debussy.


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I have a 45 year old Hannon book written in German. My piano goals originate from the quote in the instructions:

“The whole of this volume can be played in one hour and as soon as it is understood and practiced daily for some time, difficulties will disappear as if by enchantment and the results will be crisp, light, delicate touch which is the secret of great artists.”

For those who are not Hannon fans, I am reminded by one of my early piano instructors: “There are many roads that lead to Rome”


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Originally Posted by Panama
I have a 45 year old Hannon book written in German. My piano goals originate from the quote in the instructions:

“The whole of this volume can be played in one hour and as soon as it is understood and practiced daily for some time, difficulties will disappear as if by enchantment and the results will be crisp, light, delicate touch which is the secret of great artists.”

For those who are not Hannon fans, I am reminded by one of my early piano instructors: “There are many roads that lead to Rome”
The part you quoted is an ad for the book. There may be many roads that lead to Rome but that's not the same as saying all roads lead to Rome.

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Actually, most roads don't lead to Rome.

Instead, they lead to water.


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TY so much:
Iaroslav Vasiliev

I have been struggling with a young man's arrangements (Francesco Parrino)
He is arranging beautiful pieces with Arpeggios AND Long Glides up the Piano- such fun to play his arrangements.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ8THdZnqPVoLN9zuT-pjBg (Pop Music)
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRQc6AS_fPa9G-6xPtFdNyw (Classical Music)

I am struggling mastering them and thought/wondered if going thru the Hanon OR picking pertinent exercises would
be beneficial.
It was never intended to IMPRESS anyone - just wondered if anyone every tried just exercising thru all the exercises?

It may not be intentional but sometimes some comments come off as very 'snarky' - they may not be meant to, but they
are perceived that way. Just Sayin'

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I second IV's advice.

I would also suggest you to play the first part (1-30 IIRC) on different keys. For example in the key(s) of the Parrino piece you are working on. Also playing them in triplets and with dotted rhythms help.

IMO, you might concentrate on finger exercises, scales, arpeggios, octaves and chords first.

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
TY so much:
Iaroslav Vasiliev

I have been struggling with a young man's arrangements (Francesco Parrino)
He is arranging beautiful pieces with Arpeggios AND Long Glides up the Piano- such fun to play his arrangements.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ8THdZnqPVoLN9zuT-pjBg (Pop Music)
and
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRQc6AS_fPa9G-6xPtFdNyw (Classical Music)

I am struggling mastering them and thought/wondered if going thru the Hanon OR picking pertinent exercises would
be beneficial.
It was never intended to IMPRESS anyone - just wondered if anyone every tried just exercising thru all the exercises?

It may not be intentional but sometimes some comments come off as very 'snarky' - they may not be meant to, but they
are perceived that way. Just Sayin'

I can see why you really want to learn the Perrino arrangements — they are sll very well done!

From looking at the scores, why don’t you extract the exercises from the music itself? Looking at Ave Maria, there are many arpeggios— mark them snd learn them as your own exercise. Find the scale fragments snd practice them. Don’t forget to use good body mechanics including rotation. I guess I might be missing something, but I would find this more beneficial than Hanon . Practice very slowing, listening that you play the arpeggios evenly.

As always, this is what I would do — but then I always make my music the actual exercise.


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dogperson - thanks so much

funny what you are saying, because as a voice/musical theater teacher - THAT is exactly what I do!
I make the 'MUSIC THE EXERCISE'
Thanks

Isn't he wonderful?
Love his facial expressions while he is playing.
I don't struggle with the arpeggios
I struggle with the 'glisses' - those 16th runs up several octaves of the piano slay me! LOL
It never sounds like a full run - it always sounds like clumps of notes!

I remember in my teens my teacher would say 'make the clumps and then work on the bridges between the clumps'


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thanks again

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
dogperson - thanks so much

funny what you are saying, because as a voice/musical theater teacher - THAT is exactly what I do!
I make the 'MUSIC THE EXERCISE'
Thanks

Isn't he wonderful?
Love his facial expressions while he is playing.
I don't struggle with the arpeggios
I struggle with the 'glisses'

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thanks again

brdwyguy

I didn’t read the entire score but I didn’t see any glissando. Csn you point out one in Ave Maria or in what piece you saw them?

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BTW, the Steinway he plays sound very good.

I wonder what model it is.

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I believe he is playing the Model B with a Spirio in it!
https://www.francescoparrinomusic.com/about-francesco/#:~:text=Can%20I%20request%20custom%20sheet,and%20a%20score%20for%20you.

https://www.francescoparrinomusic.com/my-piano/

Unless Steinway brings him in to record on a bigger D?

dogperson - check out Finn Grassi's arrangement of The Summer of 42

- this arrangement is FULL of them (measure 14)


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I have purchased about 2 dozen of his arrangements on Musicnotes
I have almost mastered

Memory
Moon River
& Cinema Paradiso

now working on: Somewhere In My Memory
Ave Maria
Phantom of the Opera
It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like Christmas

and I want to work on the arrangement of Summer of 42 by Finn Grassie as well

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Originally Posted by brdwyguy
dogperson
I have purchased about 2 dozen of his arrangements on Musicnotes
I have almost mastered
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Memory
Moon River
& Cinema Paradiso

now working on: Somewhere In My Memory
Ave Maria
Phantom of the Opera
It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like Christmas

and I want to work on the arrangement of Summer of 42 by Finn Grassie as well

brdwyguy


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I expect that you might be referring runs rather than glissandos Where are you were having trouble? If there are groups of four notes, practice them in groups of five instead: the four notes in the group and the first note in the second group. It helps to eliminate the ‘clumpiness’.

I have bookmarked them but not yet purchased, as I already have a stack of ‘want to play’.

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