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This establishment is offering a course for aspiring piano technicians / tuners. Has anyone heard of this place? Or studied / know someone who studied there?
I'd really appreciate any info or opinion anyone has, I'm considering studying there in
The near future, but the entry fee is fairly hefty, so I just want to be 100% sure.

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You did not identify the establishment.


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There is this place www.thepianotechnologyschool.com based in Northampton and run by Steve Droy.

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What are the costs for attending this institution?

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Not an ad, hoping to find someone on here who studies there so I can find out things like: commuting to and from Northampton (I dont live there), accommodation in that area if need be, and just to find out what its like there really.

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Tatum, the reference to ads in the post above was because that poster had written an ad for something (the post was then deleted by the moderator, but ‘ads’ was left to indicate the reason for the deletion). I have no information about the school you’re looking at, but I thought I’d offer this clarification about that other post. Good luck!

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The technique shown in this video is absolutely horrible!
A hole is drilled spanning two key leads, and a third large lead is swaged in-between the two leads.


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Originally Posted by Ed Sutton
The technique shown in this video is absolutely horrible!
A hole is drilled spanning two key leads, and a third large lead is swaged in-between the two leads.

I stopped using key leads to adjust key balance and switched to a different technique years ago.
I bought a large supply of very small tungsten discs of assorted sizes from a tungsten foundry.
They range in weight between 0.15 grams to 0.6 grams, sorry, don't have dimensions on hand, but they're pretty tiny.

The density of lead is 11.29 grams per cubic centimeter.
The density of tungsten is 19.29 grams per cubic centimeter.
For comparison, gold is 19.3, and iron is only 7.87.

I drill vertical holes from the bottom of the key gong up towards the key covering, instead of through the side.
Then I fill the hole with loose tungsten discs in the amount and location I'd determined by setting them in a pile on top of the keys when calculating down/up weight (and after handling action friction to me satisfaction).

After filling the hole with the discs, I plug the hole with a bit of paper towel jammed in tight enough to prevent the discs from moving, and seal it all with a drop of superglue on the paper towel, then plane off any excess paper towel with a razor.

The superglue doesn't touch the discs, just the paper towel. Should I or someone wish to add or remove weight, or completely undo this, a drill removes the paper towel easly, and the discs fall out.

The much greater density of tungsten allows for far more adjustment options in a limited space than lead (even if the key is FULL of lead), the weights can be placed anywhere on the keystick underside to fine vary the leverage, the modification is invisible until the key is turned upside down, the smaller vertical hole creates less risk of the keystick breaking on some abusively hard blow than sideways large holes of lead, and the mod can be easily adjusted or undone at any point in the future. Plus, the amount of weight add can be fine tuned in 150 *milligram* increments, if one wishes to be *that* precise.

The foundry I purchased them from is https://midwesttungsten.com/

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I want to bring this back to the OP's question.

The web site manages to imply a lot without being very specific.

For example, he compares his school to Mario Igrec's program at the North Bennett Street School.

Here are a few facts:
1) The North Bennett Street School is a long-established, well-funded craft/trade school with multiple programs, a large building with shops and instruments, several generations of teachers and a well-established, evolving curriculum.
2) Mario Igrec only taught briefly at NBSS. He left to become the head technician at the Julliard School in Manhattan.
3) Mario wrote an encyclopedic text of piano technology, the ultimate book on the technology.
4) The key lead video shows that the person teaching this knows nothing whatsoever of what Mario has written about the topic. The video work is absolutely unacceptable by any standard of attentive quality.

Personally, what I expect in a school is to be taught a standard of craft that I will strive toward for the rest of my life. I don't think I'd find it in this school.


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