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Honestly, some of the things you described feels like a mess, and beyond the particular difficulties you already have - though those difficulties would exacerbate the situation.

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To be a Teacher (and not self proclaimed teacher), I do think you need different skills.
One is, for sure, being a good pianist and musician, another one is the skill to teach in itself, that mean being able to listen, to transmit, to judge and assess the student, patience etc... Having studied all this with a great Teacher.
Not all the teachers have this. It took a lot of time. And also the capacity to continue its own learning process. (and more stuff).
And if you add the passion to this, well that is a perfect match.
That is normal that all the teachers do not have these, they might lack one part or another, but if they try to progress in their journey, it is fine.
As a student you can always learn something from someone with more experience.

A teacher, who gives you some tasks which are above your real skill, may overvalue you, (which could be a teaching fault) or he may do this on purpose (teaching goal would be something else).

Even someone who have learned piano on its own during 7 years, one year with a teacher could have something to teach to beginners, but he will be limited. He has to face it. The problem comes when he didn't.

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I have days (or weeks) when I wonder why my teacher doesn't just start me over at the beginning.

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Honestly, some of the things you described feels like a mess, and beyond the particular difficulties you already have - though those difficulties would exacerbate the situation.
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Originally Posted by playplayplay
A teacher, who gives you some tasks which are above your real skill, may overvalue you...
and why would that happen?


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A teacher, who gives you some tasks which are above your real skill, may overvalue you...
and why would that happen?

May be, in that case, he is not a skilled teacher or a beginner one and need time in his teaching.


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A teacher, who gives you some tasks which are above your real skill, may overvalue you...
and why would that happen?

May be, in that case, he is not a skilled teacher or a beginner one and need time in his teaching.
and I wonder if some people are more hard to teach than others. I mean, people sometimes need psychological help, eg some don't understand how to practice simple arpeggi. It is easy to be confused. I guess a student overthinking the details like how to move one's thumb for some arpeggi is something most teacheers have a difficult time dealing with. Getting stuck or missing the details can be a big issue. I have a amazing piano teacher now and he knows how to deal with this.
It's so easy to get stuck or sometimes miss the details, right? Have you ever experienced this?
It's like you can play something kind of ok, ie you have good technique for it, but overthinking messes things up for you, right?

And I guess a lot of issues for me and others are with aural skills and I'm not just talking about playing by ear. Even technique exercices requires good aural skills but in a nother way I guess.
I often find that aural skills are the hardest to teach. You can know all the theory in the world but have extreme issues with aural skills. Just because you know lots of theory doesn't mean you can play a simple tune by ear. Your theoretical knowledge will fool you.

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It's a fine line. You need something that will challenge you whilst engaging you.

Being set something way above your technical and musical ability/standard that you are going to find too difficult will only get you frustated and give you a feeling of failure and not good enough, never going to master it etc.
Can also lead to disinterest in playing.

So think in small steps. Your teacher should know how to get you there

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Those two names are confusing. We should ask the new member to change it.

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My biggest challenge is playing more than 1 advance piece consistently. When I work on 1 piece for a few weeks, I'm only good at that piece. I wouldn't be able to play another similar piece at the same level without working at it. After learning the 2nd piece, the first piece wouldn't be so proficient and needs to be relearned.

I don't need to compare myself to anybody in the family. Some people around took lessons ages ago but they're no longer playing. The pieces that I'm playing yesterday & today at whatever level I already accomplished something.

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