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https://open.spotify.com/track/6ENRPg4t2F99SupJLiUwuh?si=d8920a03c2df4eab

Sorry if you don't have spotify, but I can't find a link to the tune anywhere on youtube.

The way this pianist plays it, to me it sounds like the piece is in 3/4, with four eighth notes followed by an eighth note triplet. But it's written in 7/8? But also the left hand is written as if it's in 3/4. Does anyone know what's going on here?

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Well the last 2 8th notes in the left hand are notated as duplets so it is equivalent to 3 8th notes. So the notation is consistent as a 7/8.


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Originally Posted by Sidokar
Well the last 2 8th notes in the left hand are notated as duplets so it is equivalent to 3 8th notes. So the notation is consistent as a 7/8.

This guy seems to be playing it as written, where every 8th note in the right hand is consistent. The first guy most certainly plays the last three 8th notes as triplets, leaving the piece to feel like it's in 3


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I would agree that in this vid it is played as a 3/4 when it is marked 7/8.


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I would agree that in this vid it is played as a 3/4 when it is marked 7/8.

So would we say he is playing it incorrectly? Or is he taking some sort of creative liberties we might allow?


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I'd say that he goes past reasonable creative liberty: he's playing it wrong. Bortkiewicz specifically indicates that the seven eighth notes should be played very equally: "molto egualemente le sette crome".


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It is a difficult question. What is certain is that he is not playing it the way the composer wrote the piece. So from an interpretative standpoint he goes indeed beyond what would be considered as the window of personal liberties.

From a musical standpoint, his choice being, i assume deliberate, he must have preferred the piece that way. It is definitely an adaptation. But which do you personally prefer ?

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Originally Posted by Sidokar
It is a difficult question. What is certain is that he is not playing it the way the composer wrote the piece. So from an interpretative standpoint he goes indeed beyond what would be considered as the window of personal liberties.

From a musical standpoint, his choice being, i assume deliberate, he must have preferred the piece that way. It is definitely an adaptation. But which do you personally prefer ?
well, i heard the "incorrect" version first, so it's the one in my head and i'm biased. the idea of four 8th notes followed by an 8th note triplet lasting an entire piece and never once changing inspired me so much I'm in the middle of writing my own piece that's similar (but the motif is in reverse)...So I can't unhear it. The idea of playing straight 8ths in 7/8 is less inspiring. Even if they're grouped 4 and 3...a nice enough motif i suppose.


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I think we are unconsciously influenced by our habit of listening to regular meters. The triplet version is more aligned with the natural character of the piece. Here is a better played version. The irregular meter does bring something different though.


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It just says the video is unavailable


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Originally Posted by CodySean
It just says the video is unavailable

Ha! curious. It works for me. Here is the link. Maybe you can access it directly in YT.

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDymsA3PaOc"

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It still does not open. It may not be available in the US, or it may be private.


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It's probably not available in the US. What country are you in Sidokar? I have a VPN and can just switch over...


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Originally Posted by CodySean
It's probably not available in the US. What country are you in Sidokar? I have a VPN and can just switch over...

Hi CodySean. I answered your question via PM.


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