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Originally Posted by Henrik Stromberg
You are right it's impossible without practicing but sometimes you can use some tools. Musicnotes doesn't have it but you can find tutorial function in musescore (https://musescore.com/verona/driver-s-license/piano-tutorial) which can help you to visualize your hands moves.

I appreciate the suggestion although I use printed out on paper lead sheets. I'm not a fan of synthesia style learning. I'm not knocking it just not my style/preference.

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Sebs, don't feel bad about not being able to play that piece well, because it is just not a good piece to learn on.
There is less than one octave in variation of the notes, which might seem to make it easy to play, but it doesn't have much rhythm to help you count with and it is just a boring, stupid melody.
Sorry, just my opinion, I guess the 3 million people who listened to the official version on YouTube have a different opinion.

It is much easier to learn the timing of the notes (whether 16th or 8th) on a song that has a definite rhythm paired with a melodic treble, because you can feel the pulse of the music in your head.
I know that you played around with Heart of Gold (Neil Young) and I would recommend you go back to that piece. It has a simple and recognizable melody line with a consistent beat that you can hear as you play the notes.


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Originally Posted by trooplewis
it doesn't have much rhythm to help you count with and it is just a boring, stupid melody.

The song actually features quavers in the LH, which I'd argue is a great rhythm to play the RH melody alongside. Crotchets would work well too, but is a step away from how the song is supposed to go. As a learning exercise it could be valuable though.


Originally Posted by trooplewis
Sorry, just my opinion, I guess the 3 million people who listened to the official version on YouTube have a different opinion.

7.4 million likes, actually:

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Listening to it, you can hear how there's slight back-phrasing in certain parts of the melody. Think I've said to be careful of taking written pop music down as gospel before - the rhythm on the sheet music is not an absolute, but it's pretty accurate.

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Originally Posted by trooplewis
Sebs, don't feel bad about not being able to play that piece well, because it is just not a good piece to learn on.
There is less than one octave in variation of the notes, which might seem to make it easy to play, but it doesn't have much rhythm to help you count with and it is just a boring, stupid melody.
Sorry, just my opinion, I guess the 3 million people who listened to the official version on YouTube have a different opinion.

It is much easier to learn the timing of the notes (whether 16th or 8th) on a song that has a definite rhythm paired with a melodic treble, because you can feel the pulse of the music in your head.
I know that you played around with Heart of Gold (Neil Young) and I would recommend you go back to that piece. It has a simple and recognizable melody line with a consistent beat that you can hear as you play the notes.

I absolutely love this song and she takes you on such a journey through the verses, bridge, etc have such different moods and a lot very cool elements. I understand other songs can easier and I have been working simpler ones as well but modern pop like this song and tons othera alike is what my goal is to be able to play. Also I don't go look at your songs and say "hey those are boring and stupid" really doesn't help anyone to just bash an artists and someone else's taste in music.

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Originally Posted by trooplewis
it doesn't have much rhythm to help you count with and it is just a boring, stupid melody.

The song actually features quavers in the LH, which I'd argue is a great rhythm to play the RH melody alongside. Crotchets would work well too, but is a step away from how the song is supposed to go. As a learning exercise it could be valuable though.


Originally Posted by trooplewis
Sorry, just my opinion, I guess the 3 million people who listened to the official version on YouTube have a different opinion.

7.4 million likes, actually:

Driver's License

Listening to it, you can hear how there's slight back-phrasing in certain parts of the melody. Think I've said to be careful of taking written pop music down as gospel before - the rhythm on the sheet music is not an absolute, but it's pretty accurate.

Thanks! I agree that the lead sheet for pop you don't have to treat as gospel my teacher always tells me this too. However, like you, he also said this score is done pretty good and really good for practicing rhythms on. I have just been working on first couple bars, with clapping, dummy notes, and now trying hand together. I don't know if I'll be ready to learn whole piece anytime soon but even using a few bars as an exercise is really fun. I'm trying to get LH on autopilot and feel with the 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + so I can try to get the RH melody better.

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Everyone has an opinion about various genres of music, you can hate the stuff I like and it won't insult me at all.

If you really want to know how it should sound on a piano, there is a piano tutorial here.
But be aware, the lyrics make this song...play the melody for someone who doesn't know the words, they will wonder what you are doing...


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BTW, if you think I'm hard on Oliivia Rodrigo, you should read the flak I got for enjoying Euro-Dance music in this thread on Piano World.

Just one excerpt;

As for the sound ... I play that music all the time.

There's a switch next to the kitchen sink.
I flip the switch, the garbage disposal turns on, and all the waste in the drain gets ground up.
The sound is just like the music posted above. As is the physical content.


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