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#3150446 08/27/21 02:48 PM
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Tried some more pianos today. A Kawai K15 and k200. Also ritmuller 115 and Yamaha U1.
Background. 2 yr beginner. Owner of Kawai CN37 digital piano. Want to upgrade. Thinking of Kawai CA99 or Yamaha Nu1x or at a stretch an acoustic upright.
Yamaha U1, didn't like the touch or tone. Ritmuller cheaper than Kawai and quite good action and sound. Sounded a bit too dark tho. K15, good action but a little brash slightly lacking in the bass. My favourite the Kawai K200. Great feel and sound. Made me wonder what the k300 would be like. All of these pianos sounded different and seemed to sing compared to digitals.
Came home and played on my CN37 and thought it had the more consistent sound compared to the others. Didn't really feel I was missing out by not playing an acoustic! However there's no doubt an acoustic gives you more layers of sound and timbres.
My dilemma. Do I go for the K200, keep the CN37 or upgrade the 37 to a better digital? I know it's all subjective but it's always nice to hear other opinions.

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Can you rent an acoustic for a year and see if that is what you fancy?


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Have you tried a CA99 or even nv5s yet? Bonners at Eastbourne should be close by and they’ll at least have the CA99 to demo

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Yes. Will try Bonners. Not sure if CA99 will be a big enough upgrade tho.

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If you're ready for an acoustic piano, then the only reason I can think of to keep or replace the digital piano is if you need to play silently with headphones.
Lacking that I'd sell the CN37 and not replace it.
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Do I go for the K200, keep the CN37 or upgrade the 37 to a better digital? I know it's all subjective but it's always nice to hear other opinions.

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Must admit to thinking similar to yourself. I was brought up on acoustics (at my age I would have to be) and I loved the first decent digitals that came out. I thought they sang, and they played so smoothly in the days of the Yamaha clp550.
Recent sojourns into acoustic territory fills one with terror (I am so mean) when you realise you're getting MDF cabinets instead of real wood; I'd rather buy an old usable cheapo from someone local (pref. who hasn't got COVID) and take it from there.
Just about all who buy acoustics are very glad they did and the k200 is indeed very nice.


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Originally Posted by peterws
Recent sojourns into acoustic territory fills one with terror (I am so mean) when you realise you're getting MDF cabinets instead of real wood; I'd rather buy an old usable cheapo from someone local (pref. who hasn't got COVID) and take it from there.
Just about all who buy acoustics are very glad they did and the k200 is indeed very nice.
Can you clarify, which acoustics you came across that use MDF to build the cabinets? Thanks

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Maybe Williams has started making acoustic pianos? smile
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Can you clarify, which acoustics you came across that use MDF to build the cabinets?

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Recent sojourns into acoustic territory fills one with terror (I am so mean) when you realise you're getting MDF cabinets instead of real wood; I'd rather buy an old usable cheapo from someone local (pref. who hasn't got COVID) and take it from there.
Just about all who buy acoustics are very glad they did and the k200 is indeed very nice.
Can you clarify, which acoustics you came across that use MDF to build the cabinets? Thanks

Are you telling me they're still made out of wood? When everything else has gone from plywood to chipboard to MDF?
I refer to the Leslie Speaker cabinet in days of yore. I was insanely jealous because one I borrowed (an older one, plywood) sounded twice as loud as my own (chipboard) which I'd sold, awaiting a new arrival.
I guess that's a modern assumption from myself . . . .I make many modern assumptions.
Anybody confirm? Deny?
I been out in the sun so my face's red anyway . . .


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To be complete we must note that, aside from wood, there's at least one made of acrylic plastic ... the Bluthner "Lucid".

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If I lived in the UK, I’d look to find an old (not so), used (not so) acoustic made in my homeland in good shape for cheap. There were a few great builders of small acoustic pianos there. Maybe there still are, but I doubt it.

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To be complete we must note that, aside from wood, there's at least one made of acrylic plastic ... the Bluthner "Lucid".

Wow. A novelty indeed, but that is stunning. Kawai has a very similar clear acrylic piano, but this one has a lot more "see through bits."


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How much Windex does it take to clean that piano smile


All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
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😂 what he^ said!

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It'll probably turn yellow, just like my phone case crazy

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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
It'll probably turn yellow, just like my phone case crazy

Don't buy this piano if you're a smoker or have a smoker in the dwelling. It definitely will turn Yellow!


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It'll probably turn yellow, just like my phone case crazy

What I could not stand would be the scratches... I know the material, have worked with it, and is just impossible to keep it scratch-free crazy


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And it will turn gray and cracked if it is cleaned with alcohol...


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