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What pieces have your teachers recommended for technique and what skills did they help you with?

My teach recommended to try baroque music to help with left hand and improve finger agility (Bach invention & Scarlatti sonati).

I think one issue with my learning is left hand is a little weaker so I think something to bear in mind as most later music is very right hand dominant so that is my top tip. I think most people seem to learn romantic era music. I'm going to learn do a lot more baroqure faster pieces that have the left hand.

I think it's nicer to find pieces that can be used to improve skills rather than exercises. I thought would be interesting to hear what other people have been advised by teachers

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Baroque music is good for the left hand-- not based on speed, but based on polyphony. The left hand becomes an equal player.


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Thank you. I was advised to take small sections with awkward turns to improve speed so I think it could be used for this as well. I think you can also find composers with fast baroque pieces. Scarlatti may be a good composer for this as has a lot of faster sonata pieces. I just wondered what other people have been recommended and may be useful for the others here.

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I said it before that the Grieg lyric pieces should be called Grieg lyric etudes. In addition to beeing great character pieces they always have some kind of techical difficulty that makes them great exercises.

Baroque pieces have their own difficulties but I've done about 16 Bach pieces with my teacher and don't have problems with polyphony.

Romantic era pieces have plenty of difficulty for both hands. Have a look at Moszkowski op 91. It's very difficult but has some interesting pieces (like no. 2).

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Yes, Bach is good for the left hand. My teacher focused a lot on explaining the actual hand movements and pointing out sources of inefficiency. I think that kind of teaching can be more useful than just suggesting pieces to work on.

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I agree about Bach. I do the two-part chorales from BachScholar’s Sight Reading and Harmony and it really works the left hand.

The right hand is usually quite easy because it’s the congregation’s melody line and is mostly gentle seconds and third movements. But the left hand is playing the bass line which goes all over the place, and there’s always an octave-fifth-octave somewhere.

You really have to be on your toes to avoid running out of fingers (no pun intended!) and getting a good hand movement going.


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When my teacher introduced Scriabin's Canon in d minor to me she said, once you play this, 3 vs 2, or 2 vs 3, in either hand, will never be a problem again. She was right.


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Second Bach two parts…not so much to play at tempo…the shear experience learned about counterpoints and LH. If a beginner do pieces with least sharps/flats..


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For the left hand, there are a number of composers which would can be explored, Telemann, Buxtehude for example. You can also try Cimarosa. His sonatas are often fast, and fun to play.

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Originally Posted by JimF
When my teacher introduced Scriabin's Canon in d minor to me she said, once you play this, 3 vs 2, or 2 vs 3, in either hand, will never be a problem again. She was right.

What does 3 vs 2 or 2 vs 3 mean?

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Every piece allows one to work on technique. If one wants to work on a specific technique that's a different question.

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When my teacher introduced Scriabin's Canon in d minor to me she said, once you play this, 3 vs 2, or 2 vs 3, in either hand, will never be a problem again. She was right.

What does 3 vs 2 or 2 vs 3 mean?


It means playings 3 notes (triplet) against a 2 note (quaver) in one beat. This is an example of piece entirely 3 against 2.


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Sebs,

3 against 2 polyrhythms... a basic skill for intermediate and advanced classical pieces. The Scrabin d minor Canon has them throughout alternating the hands.

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Originally Posted by JimF
When my teacher introduced Scriabin's Canon in d minor to me she said, once you play this, 3 vs 2, or 2 vs 3, in either hand, will never be a problem again. She was right.

Holy smokes! I just watched a video of Scriabin's Canon in D minor with the score showing and it looks like a hand coordination nightmare (in a good way) for a beginner like me! I struggled with, and finally conquered, the *one* occurrence of a 2 against 3 that happens in Chopin's Prelude #4 in Op. 28 and now I totally want to work on this Canon. Thank you, JimF, for suggesting this piece!


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You are welcome. A few tips...find fingering that's works for you and stick with it. Go very very slowly until the rhythm is ingrained and you can "hear" the triplets. Use a mnemonic like "not-diff-i-cult" if you need to (I did).

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Originally Posted by JimF
You are welcome. A few tips...find fingering that's works for you and stick with it. Go very very slowly until the rhythm is ingrained and you can "hear" the triplets. Use a mnemonic like "not-diff-i-cult" if you need to (I did).

Good luck,

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Understood. Thanks again!


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