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What are the most commonly used keys in today's pop? Such as, Olivia Rodrigo, Demi Lavato, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Maroon 5, Billie Eilish, etc. I know C is very common but wondering what other keys are widely used very often.

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Not sure about current stuff, but the 70's and 80's songs I play rarely are in C.
Mostly they are in G, D F and Bb and their related minors.
I'm working now on a Doors song (Crystal Ship) that is in F minor.


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Originally Posted by trooplewis
Not sure about current stuff, but the 70's and 80's songs I play rarely are in C.
Mostly they are in G, D F and Bb and their related minors.
I'm working now on a Doors song (Crystal Ship) that is in F minor.

Thanks! Funny you posted that cause at first I was going to ask about today's pop and classic rock but didnt want to get overwhelmed with it.

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I'm not sure about current pop music, but in the past it would relate to one of these:

1. The Singer (what pitch/key works best for them)
2. If it's primarily a guitar band then it'll tend to be E, A, D possibly B etc.
3. Piano based songs use C or G a lot.

Of course there are loads of exceptions to the above.

You'll see a lot of songs written out in C that weren't originally performed in that key. That's because it's easier to notate, and for amateurs to read. And if you look at a many of the guitar tab websites (a great resource - but remember they are written by amateurs) you'll find many songs chords transcribed from their original key into a more guitar friendly key.

Off the top my head I can only think of one example of that last category. Jackson Browne's "Doctor in My Eyes" (1970s song), which I played for several years in the key of E as that's what one of the guys in the band found on-line. We subsequently found that the actual recording is in F. Happily that suited our singer and is much better for me as a Piano player.

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List the original key at the very bottom of the pro singer version. It would take a lot of work to compile, since each song would need to be researched separately.

Lady Gaga ‘Shallow’ original key is C


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As someone who regularly works with young singers on their pop/rock material - I attest that the current 24 keys being used are exactly the same as the 24 used in previous decades!

Basically, there is still such a variety depending on voice type: many male voices are singing higher, and many female voices are singing lower. You could argue there's more of a mix than ever before.

What I have noticed though is that a lot of current pop has vary simple rhythms in the accompaniment (semibreves), whilst the melody has shorter semiquaver, syncopated rhythms - often in the high end of the voice.

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I guess G


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Go to YouTube and check it out! For example, I took different versions of Rocket Man, and it turned out the following:
Bb(maj), C, Db, Eb, E, F, G, A.

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It never mattered to me, the original key. To me, it's the chord progression.


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Reason I ask is because when I practice technique, such as, scales, arpeggios, chords, etc. I was wondering if it's better to focus a handful of keys or just work on all of them through the circle of fifths. I typically pick one key to focus on for a while and practice all sorts of technique in that key but I imagine familiarity in all keys is useful.

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Originally Posted by Sebs
Reason I ask is because when I practice technique, such as, scales, arpeggios, chords, etc. I was wondering if it's better to focus a handful of keys or just work on all of them through the circle of fifths. I typically pick one key to focus on for a while and practice all sorts of technique in that key but I imagine familiarity in all keys is useful.


With pop, I think you might be better off focussing on chords, and their inversions, rather than scales and arps. I'd also focus on knowing your semiquaver rhythm combinations (with ties)

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I saw a statistical analysis of all the number 1 hits for the past twenty years and they had it down to a science. G was most common


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