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I plan to look at and play for possible purchase, a baby grand piano with Bachendorff on the fall board in the Dallas area. I have searched the internet for all I can possibly find. Best I can determine it was a house brand piano from the Dallas area and that store is no longer owned by the same person. From Larry Fine's 2003-2004 Supplement Book I found that Bachendorff was the name in between an Ibach Daewoo joint venture and when Ibach started making the piano themselves again. Any information would be appreciated.

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I thought I was reading Bosendorfer? The piano however is a Bachendorff. I am sorry I have not heard of a piano called Bachendorff.


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Here's what the 2003-04 book says specifically:

"The Ibach-Daewoo joint venture mentioned in The Piano Book was
discontinued and the Korean manufacturing operation was sold by Daewoo
to an investment group that continued to manufacture pianos in Korea on a
limited basis. These pianos were distributed for a time in the U.S. under the
name Bachendorff (an arrangement now discontinued) and in Canada under
the name Royale."

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This is what I have found looking online as well as what was mentioned in Larry Fine's The Piano Book

“USED Bachendorff 6' Grand Piano with matching bench in high polished Mahogany finish. Piano features an incredible tone and wide range of volume from booming bass to soft champagne glass highs in the treble end. The action is consistent from bottom to top; tone is warm rounded and beautiful; the overall timbre makes playing this piano a real treat.”


“exquisite Bachendorff baby grand piano is a mint condition instrument. A big sound thanks to its responsive action makes for a perfect first-time grand piano or a smart upgrade from an upright.“


"Bachendorff Grand pianos are fitted with soundboards of solid Sitka spruce planks, seasoned for optimal performance. Top quailty spruce is the best wood for piano soundboards because it’s unique grain structure maximizes the sound transmission and fully enhances the tone.
While pianos are percussion instruments, Bachendorff likes to think of them as string instruments. Just as with a beautiful Violin, a piano’s unique voice begins with it’s strings. The correct selection of strings and the voicing of the piano are the crucial elements in creating the lush, smooth, “European” sound produced from every Bachendorff piano."


"Bachendorff Series including BU upright pianos and BG grand pianos. Designed by German elite piano designer Mr. Mitchell Lowther, this series of products combined traditional German piano design, and the modern technology.

Bachendorff using German ROSLAU strings, spruce soundboard, ebony black keys, Germany 3A felt hammer and action. Comfortable to play, has a rich sound."

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I’m curious exactly which of those quotes in the post (three above this) came from Larry Fine. None of that sounds like his writing, nor would some of the errors have made it past his maddeningly picky copy editor…

It’s a 90s Korean “stencil” piano. Probably entry-level in the US market for its size. And now it’s probably pushing 30 years old. We don’t know who actually owned the operation that built them.

If it’s for a serious student, I’d keep looking (what’s your budget and approximate location?).
If it’s for decorator use or occasional play for parties, holidays, etc. it’s probably fine, so long as it holds a tuning (when was it last tuned?) and all the keys and pedals work properly.

On that store’s site, if you’re looking at used grands, the Baldwin R and Kawai GE2 are probably better prospects.


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Sorry about my typo. I meant to say in addition to. A previous post by Carey quoted Larry Fine's comments in his book.

Its currently for sale by an individual. It has a QRS PNO3 with Scan/Record. My total budget travel and moving it is $10,000. This particular piano, if it turned out to be a good piano has the nice added feature of the player system.

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For reference, a brand new Young Chang or Weber 6’1 (a more modern equivalent to that piano) could probably be purchased for $13,500-14,500, which would have a manufacturer’s warranty.

If it’s tunable and working properly with a decent touch and tone (double check the player system works properly and the pedals function well), you may wish to make a slightly lower offer.


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if you do buy that piano, please have it or any used piano checked by an independent technician.The price to me seems far too high.


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Originally Posted by trr04002
This is what I have found looking online as well as what was mentioned in Larry Fine's The Piano Book

“USED Bachendorff 6' Grand Piano with matching bench in high polished Mahogany finish. Piano features an incredible tone and wide range of volume from booming bass to soft champagne glass highs in the treble end. The action is consistent from bottom to top; tone is warm rounded and beautiful; the overall timbre makes playing this piano a real treat.”


“exquisite Bachendorff baby grand piano is a mint condition instrument. A big sound thanks to its responsive action makes for a perfect first-time grand piano or a smart upgrade from an upright.“


"Bachendorff Grand pianos are fitted with soundboards of solid Sitka spruce planks, seasoned for optimal performance. Top quailty spruce is the best wood for piano soundboards because it’s unique grain structure maximizes the sound transmission and fully enhances the tone.
While pianos are percussion instruments, Bachendorff likes to think of them as string instruments. Just as with a beautiful Violin, a piano’s unique voice begins with it’s strings. The correct selection of strings and the voicing of the piano are the crucial elements in creating the lush, smooth, “European” sound produced from every Bachendorff piano."


"Bachendorff Series including BU upright pianos and BG grand pianos. Designed by German elite piano designer Mr. Mitchell Lowther, this series of products combined traditional German piano design, and the modern technology.

Bachendorff using German ROSLAU strings, spruce soundboard, ebony black keys, Germany 3A felt hammer and action. Comfortable to play, has a rich sound."

All of these quotes above mostly sounds like meaningless "marketing-speak" and have little bearing on the quality of the piano, much less the actual piano you are looking at purchasing.

Get it checked out, negotiate it down. If they won't negotiate, move on.


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