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Pretty interesting, especially at that price!

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Thanks Alpha for biting the bullet and trying all these portable pianos. Your videos also are fun to watch.

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Doepfer did have a folding 88 key hammer action controller at some point in the past.

A non-folding one weighs ~20kg, so it was probably close to that.

Anyway, it's been done and discontinued for some reason. Too little demand?

Now we have the Phoenix Piano: https://pianophoenix.com/en/

...which has already been discussed here before.

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But you forgot to include the name of this folding piano or the name of the company that makes it, so we can find it. In the video, you say that you will include this information in the description of the video, but I am not seeing any such description...

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Originally Posted by Jake Jackson
But you forgot to include the name of this folding piano or the name of the company that makes it, so we can find it. In the video, you say that you will include this information in the description of the video, but I am not seeing any such description...

It is included in the YouTube description
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Similar images with several different brands...
https://borapiano.com/products/bx-20-foldable-piano--travel-piano-115

How's touch? Heavy spring, could you measure the downweight? Does it feel rubbery at the bottom?

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Light spring. I don’t have anything to measure downweight.

It’s a bit too easy IMO to max out the velocity but I’m guessing it is because I’m used to playing acoustic and VPC-1 action.

I don’t think it feels rubbery at the bottom but it’s not like hitting a rock. It’s comfortable enough.

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It is on sale at Amazon for $154


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Originally Posted by AlphaTerminus
Light spring. I don’t have anything to measure downweight.

Some coins or whatever and a kitchen scale?

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I don’t think it feels rubbery at the bottom but it’s not like hitting a rock. It’s comfortable enough.

I mean, I've got one el cheapo Yamaha synth with soft spring-action keys, but before bottoming out they happen to become rubbery and somehow fatiguing, maybe as the key squishes the rubber contact.

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Originally Posted by dogperson
It is on sale at Amazon for $154
Are you sure?

I assume you're referring to this keyboard, which sells for $169 and has a coupon for $15 off:
https://www.amazon.com/NikoMaku-Portable-Keyboard-Foldable-Sensitive/dp/B08T5LRW89

Then there is this Nikomaku keyboard that sells for $199:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0923L5FCS

If you look at the page for the $169 one, then scroll down, you will see where there is a comparison with the more expensive model. The more expensive one has larger keys and is two pounds heavier. Given that it is $199, I expect that's the one OP bought, especially since I don't think he mentioned small keys.

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I believe the following link is to the manufacturer, which sells them in quantities of 8 or more for $79-83, and then I suspect the buyer rebadges them and feeds them into retail channels.

https://m.made-in-china.com/product...-Keyboard-Organ-Keyboard-1912266602.html

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The issue with Chinese products is not that they can't produce quality. But once a product has been received well, there is usually a race to the bottom to cut costs during the production run hoping that nobody notices the quality fade. OTOH Western products usually improve in quality the longer the production runs, both by stuff learned during production to minimize the defect rate and due to customer feedback.


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Thanks Alpha Terminus . . . I bought what I think is the same piano . .. although mine cost about 2x what you spent. I found it on a "Canadian" web site and didn't do any checking for other options. Apparently there are many places to buy this or a similar looking keyboard. Anyway,I am struggling with the touch as it is very bouncy. I find it hard to stay on the keys. Would you please tell me what settings you use. What does the velocity setting actually control? The instruction booklet (I use that term very loosely) implies it controls volume but not sure that is true. I know I will need Pianoteq for better sound quality. I want to love this device as it will be great for my senior home gigs . . . but it is a huge downgrade from my acoustic piano. Thank you.

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In Pianoteq you use the calibration in the lower left. It is going to be a downgrade from any properly weighted keyboard and my reviews are only focused on ultraportable travel keyboards.


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Thanks! Yes, I realize it is a downgrade from my acoustic . . . but then I can't really drag an acoustic grand piano around! I think Pianoteq is what I need too make this work. I appreciate your review and answering my question.

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So I got myself one Bora BX-20 for travel, around 130€ at Banggood. It is probably worth the money, but worse than I've expected - I wouldn't have bought it if I tested it in person. It doesn't sound so well with a VST because the touch sensitivity has just a few levels and is uneven among the keys (maybe got a slightly defective piece, some keys don't register if pushed lightly). Keys feel like cheap plastic as expected but at least have standard dimensions, the springs are not totally light, and of course get quite heavy near the fallboard.

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If it's worse than you expected, then why did you title the thread "Shockingly good" ?

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Do any of these folding pianos have action that is comparable to Yamaha P-125 or similar ~$600 entry level weighted hammer action digital pianos?

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
If it's worse than you expected, then why did you title the thread "Shockingly good" ?

That wasn't me. Maybe my expectations were higher because of this "shockingly good" smile I also have an old cheapo Yamaha 61 key synth that feels better.

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