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jon123 #3125851 06/08/21 03:15 PM
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I enjoyed your review of the Pocket Piano AlphaTerminus.

There are some excellent industrial engineers and musicians in Spain. The travel case was much smaller than I expected. Hopefully they sort out the pedal bug.

Did the key noise bother you? Was it quieter on a table (or a table with a rubbery cushion).

FYI - As you may know, these guys in NY chop Yamaha & Casio portable pianos to order. One could DIY this idea I suppose...

https://www.minetticustomkeyboards.com/

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Originally Posted by AlphaTerminus
I received it less than a week after ordering.

A fresh review from yours truly:

Awesome review, thanks for sharing! I have a question (asking here, let me know if you prefer being asked on youtube): you mentioned that this product does not work like a regular USB-MIDI controller. Can you please elaborate more? My understanding was that they do not SUPPORT connecting to everything, but that it should work. Can you for example try to connect it to iPhone (with the bs-16i app) or Android (with FluidSynth) and see what it does? For comparison, with the appropriate USB cable the N3 should work "out of the box" with both, even if it's not supported either.

If that's solved, to me the major disadvantage is that's sold as whole kit only. I mean, being modular, I'd want to buy only some modules. For example, I'd start with two or three octaves (no pedals or anything else) to see how like it, before shelling out the money for the whole thing...

Thanks again for the review!

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The noise didn't bother me. I don't have an android. My macbook would not detect the bluetooth, and the phone would not either, except within the ravenscroft or Garageband apps. It's a little quieter on a solid table.

Yes I have an old casio that I sawed off the upper couple of octaves and it's 61 key. Problem is it's the lower end of the piano unlike the middle octaves that a 61 key keyboard has. I'm sure the New York shop you mentioned figured out how to have the middle octaves play. I can connect it to Pianoteq and shift the mid parameters a couple octaves up and it works well though.

Right now with Pocket Piano, they couldn't do modular unless they somehow figure out how to make it always play the central octaves of the keyboard. if you just had one module you'd just have the bottom octave of the keyboard.


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Originally Posted by AlphaTerminus
My macbook would not detect the bluetooth, and the phone would not either

So it has no USB connection, only bluetooth? I thought it could be connected with USB too, if it's bluetooth only it's a no go for me (too much latency).

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I got the sustain to work. I think it needed to charge longer. There is seemingly no latency. I will update the video.

I'll check usb


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Out of fairness to the markers of the product, I uploaded a different review with the pedal working and played a different piece. I needed to read the instructions and let the pedal charge for 2 hours prior to use!



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Alpha -- Thank you!! -- Great job.
I put a little compliment on there.

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For the price I'd rather buy the Piano de Voyage from France. It is supposed to be sturdy enough when placed on a portable keyboard stand. The Pocket Piano from Spain looks very innovative. I already have a Folding Piano 88 from Carry-on (MidiPlus) and this looks like a much better product.

Definitely want a practice keyboard for travelling that is as close to a regular piano as I can get, not something that is similar to the one I have already. As a gen 1 product, not sure how far the technology can advance and if the company would come up with an improved version eventually.

The sound of the Pocket Piano isn't bad. Thanks for the review.

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Alpha:
Can you say more about the feel of the keys, and how well the dynamics respond to how you press the keys?

(BTW I imagine there are simpler ways of saying the things I said there, but hey, I don't know the lingo!)

I would probably get one if that stuff is reasonably OK.

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The sound is Ravenscroft iOS as pocket piano has no built in sounds. The dynamics are okay, though not as good as full depth keys. I find I can play basically soft, medium, and loud. Not a lot in-between


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Thank you -- and can you say anything about the other thing I mentioned, the feel of the keys....

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The feel of the keys is fine, I don’t have any trouble going from a normal keyboard. I would only buy this if you are flying and want to take an 88 key piano because any weighted keyboard will be better


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I received the clavier today. It shipped directly from Hong Kong. Got it like 5 days after ordering. I must say, I’m shocked. This is really very, very, good. The keys are full size full depth. The internal sounds suck (GM synth) but it connects via usb or midi. Connecting to Pianoteq via usb cable and calibrating, it is wonderful. Easily 8/10 when used with Pianoteq after calibration. The action is as good as the Roland go piano. If they would just make fully weighted keys it would be 10/10.

I’ll do a review but I don’t feel like it at this moment.

Cheaper to order directly from China but will take a month to get.

I’m going to try cancel piano de voyage. I cannot imagine any non weighted action better than this.

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It looks like the NikoMaku folding piano on Amazon is the same thing and as the Clavier and is just $199. If you need an ultraportable keyboard I would recommend that. until a weighted version comes out, I don’t think we will find anything cheaper or better


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Originally Posted by AlphaTerminus
It looks like the NikoMaku folding piano on Amazon is the same thing and as the Clavier and is just $199. If you need an ultraportable keyboard I would recommend that. until a weighted version comes out, I don’t think we will find anything cheaper or better

Does it need separate power or can you use it connected to USB only? Does it work when folded, to use it DURING travel? To me the advantage of the "brick pianos" is that ability, not just transportation per se. Looks like piano de voyage can do that, which is nice.

Side note: I'd have liked it more if any of these was DS6.0, which I never see. They rather have the "regular size keys" which is DS6.5 (and too big for portability, IMHO) or the "small keys" like LUMI which is DS5.5 (which is too small and hard to adjust) or the "tiny keys" which is DS 5.0 or smaller (which is useless). DS = Donison-Steinbuhler = inches-per-octave

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The usb is the power and is powered when playing. It seems to have an onboard lithium battery.

It works when folded but you get either the top or bottom halves of the octaves.
But with something like Pianoteq you could transpose the octaves down like 24 notes and it would give you the middle octaves..

It certainly does not feel cheap… at all.

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Originally Posted by AlphaTerminus
The usb is the power and is powered when playing. It seems to have an onboard lithium battery.

It works when folded but you get either the top or bottom halves of the octaves.
But with something like Pianoteq you could transpose the octaves down like 24 notes and it would give you the middle octaves..

It certainly does not feel cheap… at all.

Awesome, thanks! Why do you speculate about the battery? Many things are powered directly via USB without battery (the Kawai VPC1, IIRC, is one of them!)

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Well it works without being plugged in to anything (with its crappy built in gm synth sounds)🤣


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I wanted to thank you all who were on here, especially Jon for starting it and Alpha for all that specific info.
I did 'take the plunge' -- bought a DP today, my first, and it's not one of the ones that was mentioned in here but all the info here helped me toward figuring it out.

I got a Casio PX-S3000BK, at a local store (Sam Ash). After reading everything here and thinking about it and doing some more research online, I went there thinking I was probably going to get a Roland FP-30 or Yamaha Piaggero NP-32, but they didn't have either one on the floor, but....
They did have a Roland FP-60, which I guess is a little 'higher' than the 30 -- and I didn't like it as much as the Casio, so I figured, forget the FP-30. And about the Yamaha, as I got more info about that, it seemed I wouldn't like that any better either -- don't remember the details of that (that's how my brain works -- once I've used info for something and I won't be needing it anymore, it disappears from my head). grin

Plus, anyway I really liked the Casio.

So, thank you!! I will be really interested to try the Pocket Piano some time, but once I started looking more into this, it seemed I'd be better served with a better instrument, even if it doesn't exactly fit into my pocket. ha

After I have some experience with the Casio I might start a thread on it, but meanwhile, if any of you happen to know it, I'd love to hear any impressions.

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......I won't have to start any new thread on that Casio -- here's an old one that seems to keep going:
"Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000"

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