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klausi6 #3125184 06/06/21 04:58 PM
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Hope I make another comparison video soon, maybe tomorrow. Just playing, talking a bit about my experience etc. Hope it will help some people, especially those who only want to buy exactly one of them:)


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A second recording using the Blüthner. This piece is still a work in progress.

Mendelssohn Songs Without Words Opus 19 No. 1 on soundcloud

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Just an FYI for people downloading the demos of these products, don't forget to also download the updates in the my VSL section. I find it odd that VSL wouldn't simply update their original downloads to avoid this, as it's not obvious in the least that the version you're downloading is not the latest one. I downloaded a Steinway update from early/mid 2019, and let me tell you it revolutionised my experience. Before the update, I found it way too bright, and the control was totally off. Afterward, it sounds and plays like a dream.

I believe the original problem was that the velocity mapping was off, as well as the timbral mapping, so it meant that from about MF up, the piano sounded timbrally like an FF(F!) even if volumewise it didn't match that.

I would not have bought the original version, but with this update I would definitely now recommend it.

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Originally Posted by Solasuke
Just an FYI for people downloading the demos of these products, don't forget to also download the updates in the my VSL section. I find it odd that VSL wouldn't simply update their original downloads to avoid this, as it's not obvious in the least that the version you're downloading is not the latest one. I downloaded a Steinway update from early/mid 2019, and let me tell you it revolutionised my experience. Before the update, I found it way too bright, and the control was totally off. Afterward, it sounds and plays like a dream.

I believe the original problem was that the velocity mapping was off, as well as the timbral mapping, so it meant that from about MF up, the piano sounded timbrally like an FF(F!) even if volumewise it didn't match that.

I would not have bought the original version, but with this update I would definitely now recommend it.

Now that is interesting, I did not like the Steinway 274 at all very much for the reasons you describe. At the time I got a refund for it and got the BI instead.

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Originally Posted by Solasuke
Just an FYI for people downloading the demos of these products, don't forget to also download the updates in the my VSL section. I find it odd that VSL wouldn't simply update their original downloads to avoid this, as it's not obvious in the least that the version you're downloading is not the latest one. I downloaded a Steinway update from early/mid 2019, and let me tell you it revolutionised my experience. Before the update, I found it way too bright, and the control was totally off. Afterward, it sounds and plays like a dream.

I believe the original problem was that the velocity mapping was off, as well as the timbral mapping, so it meant that from about MF up, the piano sounded timbrally like an FF(F!) even if volumewise it didn't match that.

I would not have bought the original version, but with this update I would definitely now recommend it.

Only the Steinway demo is available from what I can see, but downloading those is such a big hassle, I think I'll stick with what I have. On paper my Mac isn't powerfull enough to run those anyway, even though I didn't have problems with power so far.

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Originally Posted by Solasuke
Just an FYI for people downloading the demos of these products, don't forget to also download the updates in the my VSL section. I find it odd that VSL wouldn't simply update their original downloads to avoid this, as it's not obvious in the least that the version you're downloading is not the latest one. I downloaded a Steinway update from early/mid 2019, and let me tell you it revolutionised my experience. Before the update, I found it way too bright, and the control was totally off. Afterward, it sounds and plays like a dream.

I believe the original problem was that the velocity mapping was off, as well as the timbral mapping, so it meant that from about MF up, the piano sounded timbrally like an FF(F!) even if volumewise it didn't match that.

I would not have bought the original version, but with this update I would definitely now recommend it.

Now that is interesting, I did not like the Steinway 274 at all very much for the reasons you describe. At the time I got a refund for it and got the BI instead.

Yes. That is very important information. Thank you!

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I am bit out of practise with this piece, but it is in nearly all my examples for the different virtual pianos and DP I have used. It took a bit today to get it to this state. I will however work on it, because I think the Blüthner works very well for pieces like this.

The first of Mendelssohn's Venetian Gondolier pieces from his Songs Without Words. Opus 19 No. 6

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Originally Posted by Solasuke
Just an FYI for people downloading the demos of these products, don't forget to also download the updates in the my VSL section. I find it odd that VSL wouldn't simply update their original downloads to avoid this, as it's not obvious in the least that the version you're downloading is not the latest one. I downloaded a Steinway update from early/mid 2019, and let me tell you it revolutionised my experience. Before the update, I found it way too bright, and the control was totally off. Afterward, it sounds and plays like a dream.

I believe the original problem was that the velocity mapping was off, as well as the timbral mapping, so it meant that from about MF up, the piano sounded timbrally like an FF(F!) even if volumewise it didn't match that.

I would not have bought the original version, but with this update I would definitely now recommend it.

What a difference , thank you very much for this information.


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