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Garritan CFX Mic perspective

Has anyone played with this?

I am pretty settled with the main classic setting.
I also like the Bill Evans settings for certain pieces.

Then I just noticed you can change the mic perspective .

You can load the classic, then change the mic the player instead of the default.

Have spent just a little time on this, so I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other

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For me, while practising or playing for me, player. If you need to record the piano as part of a composition, it is better the default perspective


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I like the Classic Full as well.

Are you sure you are changing the mic setups? The "Audience/Player" toggle just swaps the stereo channels I think.

I don't like any of the presets personally, since they all involve some level of artificial reverb, and if there's anything CFX doesn't need, it's even more reverb smile


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Originally Posted by Gombessa
I like the Classic Full as well.

Are you sure you are changing the mic setups? The "Audience/Player" toggle just swaps the stereo channels I think.

I don't like any of the presets personally, since they all involve some level of artificial reverb, and if there's anything CFX doesn't need, it's even more reverb smile


You actually see the names of the microphone change.

https://usermanuals.garritan.com/CFXConcertGrand/Content/mic_perspectives_and_mic_controls.htm

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Oh, are you talking about changing the mix of close/ambient mics? The highlighted section you linked is HOW you change the mic sets (Classic, Contemporary, Player).

If you load Classic, and then change to Player, the mic sets change to whatever the close/ambient mics are used by the Player perspective globally.


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A Garritan full user here. After many hours and days of comparing the various options,
I settled on: Goal: The warmest setting, with the most melodic clarity and single note fullness possible.
Thus:

The Player set of close mic samples at default
An increase of bass EQ
Turn on half pedaling samples
Maintain Audience perspective

The Performer perspective seems to cause some very slight phase cancelation that Audience perspective doesn't, thus Performer is a little thinner although I like the idea.

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Yes, but only the mics change, the rest of the settings should be from the Classic setting.

Theoretically, it should give a more natural crisper sound, but I wonder how much of the classic sound is lost by changing the mics.

Also feels gimmickry to me. Makes me wonder if they are not just playing the settings in the background and not really changing the mics at all.

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Originally Posted by ronlefebvre
Yes, but only the mics change, the rest of the settings should be from the Classic setting.

I assumed that changing the mics WAS the change from classic/contemporary/player. So if you change the mics and some settings stay the same, then those settings weren't attributed to the perspectives to begin with? Could just be a matter of semantics.

Do you mean you load a *preset* (like Bill Evans) and then change the mics while staying in that preset? That makes a lot more sense to me smile


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They really did change mic positions

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The Player set of close mic samples at default
A slight increase of bass EQ
Turn on half pedaling samples
Maintain Audience perspective
Reduce Room Release Levels to ~ 10:00 o'clock


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Originally Posted by Gombessa
Originally Posted by ronlefebvre
Yes, but only the mics change, the rest of the settings should be from the Classic setting.

I assumed that changing the mics WAS the change from classic/contemporary/player. So if you change the mics and some settings stay the same, then those settings weren't attributed to the perspectives to begin with? Could just be a matter of semantics.

Do you mean you load a *preset* (like Bill Evans) and then change the mics while staying in that preset? That makes a lot more sense to me smile

Yes, that is what I mean

Sorry for not being more clear

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Originally Posted by ronlefebvre
Originally Posted by Gombessa
Originally Posted by ronlefebvre
Yes, but only the mics change, the rest of the settings should be from the Classic setting.

I assumed that changing the mics WAS the change from classic/contemporary/player. So if you change the mics and some settings stay the same, then those settings weren't attributed to the perspectives to begin with? Could just be a matter of semantics.

Do you mean you load a *preset* (like Bill Evans) and then change the mics while staying in that preset? That makes a lot more sense to me smile

Yes, that is what I mean

Sorry for not being more clear

Ron

Really? Can you do that? I'd love to experiment with different mic settings if possible, especially player mics, without changing my settings -- how the mics are mixed, my touch curve, ETC. Can this be done?

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Originally Posted by RinTin
A Garritan full user here. After many hours and days of comparing the various options,
I settled on: Goal: The warmest setting, with the most melodic clarity and single note fullness possible.
Thus:

The Player set of close mic samples at default
An increase of bass EQ
Turn on half pedaling samples
Maintain Audience perspective

The Performer perspective seems to cause some very slight phase cancelation that Audience perspective doesn't, thus Performer is a little thinner although I like the idea.


Will certainly try that out . Thanks

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Reduce Room Release Levels to ~ 10:00 o'clock


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