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About bars 5-8(right hand):
I know that for bars 5-6 the fingering of - finger 1 for C#, finger 2 for F#, finger 3 for A, finger 5 for C# octave above, then again finger 1 for C# octave above and so on,
and for bars 7-8 - finger 1 for C#, finger 2 for E, finger 3 for G, finger 5 for C# octave above, then again finger 1 for C# octave above and so on, considered to be the appropriate\traditional fingering for those bars.

But this fingering is easier for me right now:
For bars 5-6:
finger 2 for C#, finger 4 for F#, finger 1 for A, finger 2 for C# octave above, then again finger 2 for C# octave above and so on
For bars 7-8:
finger 2 for C#, finger 1 for E, finger 2 for G, finger 4 for C# octave above, then again finger 4 for C# octave above, and then finger 1 for E octave above and so on

I now far from concert tempo, so I do take into account that maybe I'll find out at some point that I can't rase-up the tempo anymore with the fingering that seems easier to me right now, and also maybe it will be difficult to control dynamics with this fingering(that's why I came here to get an advice).

But again, right now this fingering is more convenient for me, and although mostly you should change finger in repetition notes, it seems to me that in this case, hitting the same key with the same finger twice, is more economical than the big jump you have to do with your hand with the traditional fingering.

So, what do you say?

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Are you sure you have the notes correct? I looked at the score and the notes are different from what you suggest.

For bar 5 and 6 the right hand notes are

C sharp, E sharp, G sharp, C sharp

For bar 7 and 8 the right hand notes are

C sharp, F sharp, A, C sharp



If you have put the wrong bar numbers then you can have a look at the tutorial video which gives the finger suggestions.

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Actually bar 8 - RH is C sharp, E, Fx (G natural), C sharp

I am a bit confused re this post.

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I use the thumb for every other note. Awkward at first but becomes easy.

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To play c sharp, e sharp, g sharp, your fingering is not convenient at all. Either you have the notes wrong, or you are looking at other bars.

But that mouvement is very difficult to play, especially if you expect to reach anything close to the expected tempo.

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Guys, according to the note names, the OP is apparently talking about the F#-minor and A7 / C#-dim chords, bars 7 and 8 in my edition. I think the bar numbers are wrong.
I'm struggling with this section myself to get the rhythm balanced.
Your fingering would make sense in a moderate tempo, but I don't know if it holds up at speed. The problem that I see is that it breaks the pattern. Also it seems hard with this fingering to switch to the two "block-chords" at the end of the F#-minor run.
I would have to try it for a few days to see if it works.

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Assuming we're talking about that F#-minor sequence in bar 7--for me that 2-4 from C# to F# would be a nasty stretch. I know hands differ, but I'd be careful because at speed I think that sequence followed by 1 could tempt you into an unhealthy stretching and twisting motion.


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I think my version of the sheet music is messed up, so the bars numbering different than on the common version of the sheet music.
In the version I got, probably there are more notes for each bar.

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Originally Posted by hag01
I think my version of the sheet music is messed up, so the bars numbering different than on the common version of the sheet music.
In the version I got, probably there are more notes for each bar.

What version could possibly have "more notes for each bar"? The time signature is C (or 4/4), the basic right-hand figure is in sixteenth notes: four sixteenth-notes per beat, sixteen sixteenth-notes per measure. How could it be anything else? What edition (or version) is this?

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I checked myself again, it was my mistake.
When I wrote "bars 5-6" I meant for bar 7, and when I wrote bars 7-8 I meant for bar 8.

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ok yes i thought it was a mistake. I would suggest that the fingering suggestion of paul barton is better. Your thumb under, for a very rapid passage, is a very odd fingering suggestion. It may work for you at the moment but I think this is only because you are playing slowly. At speed I think it will be very hard to impossible. Of course you are free to disagree and try your own fingering but the thumb under for a passage I think is going to make things only more difficult. Good luck.

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I did however try it. Actually the thumb under seems ok even at speed. To me it is the repeated notes with the same finger, the second, is very difficult and makes your fingering impossible for me. Fast rapid notes it is normally we change the fingerings to get a faster speed.

Like so :



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Hey Moo :), thank you very much.
May I see other opinions?

Right now it seems I'd go on the safe side and train on the traditional fingering, although at the speed I'm now on, it is the tougher choice.


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