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I've got a Casio CGP-700. I'm a relative beginner. It is the only digital piano I've owned. I've been playing for a few years. I like it. I've gotten used to the action of the weighted keyboard and I like it. Once in a while I go into a music store and sit at more expensive weighted keyboards for a minute and come away thinking that I like the Casio that I have. I even like the Casio sounds in the keyboard. I play mostly the default grand piano sound and it sounds nice.

But I'm also thinking it might make a nice upgrade to play some extra sounds and I've heard some good stuff about Keyscape. From some of the promotional videos I've seen for Keyscape the grand piano sounds noticeably more alive than the Casio one, although as stated the Casio sound is not bad. I've been fine with it. I've got a computer next to the piano but I don't use the midi output or input on the keyboard. But I've been thinking it would be fun to add that.

Keyscape says that it uses 32 level samples. Does a cheap ($800) weighted keyboard (my Casio CGP-700) put out the same midi data as a more expensive ($2000) weighted keyboard? In other words if I like the action of the Casio would I be missing something if I used it rather than getting a more expensive keyboard and getting used to a higher end piano's action?

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You will find the answer in a piano shop.

I can tell you I dislike the Tri Sensor II action of Casio (not sure what the CGP700 has), and prefer a lot a Yamaha wooden keyboard... but it is my preference, not necessarily yours.


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I don't like keyscape, it's not very playable at all imo. It's base sound is pretty good though, but all those demos on YouTube of the pro's playing their little fancy improvisations are misleading as it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as that...

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Originally Posted by krauster
In other words if I like the action of the Casio would I be missing something if I used it rather than getting a more expensive keyboard and getting used to a higher end piano's action?
I think the only significant differences would be subjective. I'm pretty sure Keyscape doesn't support half-pedaling, so even if you don't have the optional SP-33 pedal for your Casio, you're not even missing out there.

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Originally Posted by krauster
Does a cheap ($800) weighted keyboard (my Casio CGP-700) put out the same midi data as a more expensive ($2000) weighted keyboard? In other words if I like the action of the Casio would I be missing something if I used it rather than getting a more expensive keyboard and getting used to a higher end piano's action?
There is likely no improvement in the midi data in a more expensive keyboard. So, yes, if you like the action of your Casio you should not bother to upgrade.

In general, differences between keyboards in midi data will be in the particular velocities (0 - 127) that get assigned depending on how hard you hit a key. If you don't like the midi data your keyboard is sending, the solution is not to buy a more expensive keyboard; the solution would be to choose a different "velocity curve" for the keyboard you have. On some keyboards this is called adjusting the "sensitivity" from e.g., "heavy touch", to "light touch". Keyboards generally have a few different possible settings. However, when you get an external computer into the mix (as you are if you're running Keyscape or some other VST), then there are utilities you can use that give you nearly complete control over the velocity curve, can customize it as much as you want; the velocities will then be adjusted on the computer rather than in the keyboard.

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Originally Posted by hes
In general, differences between keyboards in midi data will be in the particular velocities (0 - 127) that get assigned depending on how hard you hit a key. If you don't like the midi data your keyboard is sending, the solution is not to buy a more expensive keyboard; the solution would be to choose a different "velocity curve" for the keyboard you have. On some keyboards this is called adjusting the "sensitivity" from e.g., "heavy touch", to "light touch". Keyboards generally have a few different possible settings.

Thanks everyone for the responses. I now understand the issue better.


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