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Let's show the DP manufacturers how much their DP sounds suck. :-p

Note, the question implies future tense as well i.e will you use VST in (near) future?


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Hello,

Using a (one so far) VST is the only way digital is at least acceptable (to me), for the time being, as a surrogate piano.

I'd be interested to play and hear (in the flesh) really top end digital pianos to see if that'd change my perception on this.

But from the (sooo many) pianos that I did play and/or listened to quality recordings of, none, zero, diddly, absolutely none did I like enough to consider that sound as my daily driver.

Out of a nutty curiosity, last Sunday I hooked up the internal sound of my Roland FP-10 to my three amps/six speakers setup. Shivers down my spine--and not the good ones. Unhooked after 20 seconds.

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I won't vote because I think the question is pointless. (No offence intended)

I think this is kind of like asking what do you prefer, cars or schoolbusses. While one might drive better than the other, they both offer something the other doesn't, so they both serve their purpose and can live happily next to eachoter.

I think sometimes we tend to get a bit caught up in comparing things to point out a "best". I have realised I tend to do that myself as well but sometimes it serves no purpose.

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I see what you mean , and that point did cross my mind before I had created this thread. However, I thought it'd be interesting to see in numbers, what the consensus is in this regard. I would admit though, that it wouldn't serve a meaningful purpose, other than the mentioned, and perhaps also poke some DP manufacturer's representatives lurking around here.


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You miss one option in survey - both 😊

I use builtin for sessions where I don't have time or energy to connect the laptop. Then I live with it, it is good enough.

When there is time and I want some more pleasure from playing, or I want to record, VST.


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My bad. Should have asked "what do you prefer"?


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VSTs always... the VPC1 sounds are... missing! grin

More seriously, I went the controller way because I was not a big fan of built-in sounds, wanted flexibility and expandability and didn't need portability.


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Originally Posted by EB5AGV
VSTs always... the VPC1 sounds are... missing! grin

The same for me. But it actually started with getting a VST and finding that I liked the sounds of the VST so much more than those of my piano. From there, it dawned on me that because I like the sounds of the VST so much, why pay for the development of the sounds of a DP when I can get a controller? And only pay for the action.


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People using VST permanently, can you describe your PC setups? Does is run headless, is permanently on, or more like a traditional computer, with screen and booted together with DP ?


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People using VST permanently, can you describe your PC setups? Does is run headless, is permanently on, or more like a traditional computer, with screen and booted together with DP ?

It is permanently on.


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Originally Posted by Barde
People using VST permanently, can you describe your PC setups? Does is run headless, is permanently on, or more like a traditional computer, with screen and booted together with DP ?

My MacBook Pro is always on. To wake it from sleep mode, I lift the cover. I click the PianoTeq icon in the Dock, and I'm ready to play. It takes me longer than that to remove the dust cover from the P121 and turn it on.

As for the OP's question, I greatly prefer PianoTeq's sounds to the ones in my P121. smile


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Garritan cfx. Laptop with hibernate as default. Few seconds to switch on or off. Weekly restart just to refresh memory.

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Garritan cfx. Laptop with hibernate as default. Few seconds to switch on or off. Weekly restart just to refresh memory.

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Laptop with hibernate is the best feature when using VST.


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DP manufacturers should be ashamed of their delivered sounds. Unworthy of their asking price for the machines.

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I would PREFER to be able to use built-in piano sounds, but unfortunately they suck, so I have to go to the bother and extra expense and added latency of using VSTs.

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I believe this is changing as we speak; especially at the higher end (hybrids) where the pairing of a real action with a sub-par sound engine is no longer acceptable.

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People using VST permanently, can you describe your PC setups? Does is run headless, is permanently on, or more like a traditional computer, with screen and booted together with DP ?

Permanantly on set up, piano and my little windows 10 netbook. I stroll in, switch on the light, and play whatever piano I left off playing. There are no missed notes but the display takes some seconds to happen.


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Permanantly on set up, piano and my little windows 10 netbook. I stroll in, switch on the light, and play whatever piano I left off playing. There are no missed notes but the display takes some seconds to happen.

This would be a dream situation for me!

What netbook (make/model/key specs) do you use for this?

And: I guess permanently-on means no sleep modes, for then connections to e.g. the audio interface would need to be refreshed before being able to play again?

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People using VST permanently, can you describe your PC setups? Does is run headless, is permanently on, or more like a traditional computer, with screen and booted together with DP ?

Good question because I've been thinking on and off about how to set up my imminent Pianoteq machine. Since I'm running GNU/Linux I'd prefer to go for the headless approach using a lightweight Ubuntu config or a headless distro, that is, if the current setup proves to be unfit for running Pianoteq which I highly doubt. However as far as fast startup goes, such a config can be suitable. That, or like others, I'd just put the machine on sleep mode though I'd prefer not to consume energy even if it's like one watt.

P.S Interesting that the poll results are different to the discussion here as the builtin sounds option is ahead.


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