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I'm going to make this my summer stretch piece. I'm finishing up a Schubert waltz (Op33 No10), a Chopin prelude (E minor, that I played 20 years ago, but now I have an amazing grand piano to really improve the left hand and pedaling!), and Belgian Lace by Rocherolle. That will easily get me to a June start on this piece, and I'm super excited to follow Hugh's tutorial! Just posting this for anyone else who might be interested in learning it. smile

Hugh Sung Clair de lune tutorial


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Good luck Lisa with the 62 lessons Hugh has in store for you! A pity that it is way beyond my capabilities, it would have been nice to join you. I hope you'll get som Moonlightbuddies. smile


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Thank you for the link and tip. That's a piece I want to learn in the future. I also saw that he's using musicreader which I also have missed. https://www.musicreader.net/en/get-musicreader.html

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Good luck Lisa with the 62 lessons Hugh has in store for you! A pity that it is way beyond my capabilities, it would have been nice to join you. I hope you'll get som Moonlightbuddies. smile
This is almost definitely above my abilities as well, though I’ve never tried it so I really don’t know. But he takes each lesson very slowly, and in small bites. I wonder if it might be something that you can try out. You never know! ❤️❤️❤️


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Good luck Lisa with the 62 lessons Hugh has in store for you! A pity that it is way beyond my capabilities, it would have been nice to join you. I hope you'll get som Moonlightbuddies. smile
This is almost definitely above my abilities as well, though I’ve never tried it so I really don’t know. But he takes each lesson very slowly, and in small bites. I wonder if it might be something that you can try out. You never know! ❤️❤️❤️
If you are doing RCM 7-8 that piece should be within your grasp I would think- not that I know much about that system. With lots of practice the piece will come intuitively. I think that was the second "real" classical piece I learned back in my twenties the first being a transcription of the Blue Danube. Claire de Lune is always a crowd pleaser. To tell you a story- about 10 years ago I was at a party at my brother's house and it was loud party with lots of 20 to 30 year old drug representatives but my parents and a few in-laws happened to be in town and they were staying at my brothers place. My parents and in-laws asked me if I can play something for them and I obliged and decided to play Claire de Lune because everyone seems to like that piece. I have to tell you, that loud rambunctious party of around 75 young men and women settled down to a whisper and the living room all of a sudden had people quietly filing to hear me play and I played my best and tried to ignore the crowd. When I was done I had such a loud round applause and I was struck by how much people are somewhat starved from hearing decent classical music and I'm not a concert pianist- and that was in the middle of party! That experience was what solidified my decision to go back to piano studies and become more serious with the art. It might have also had something to do with the young women who were swooning as I played the piece- maybe.


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The hope of young women swooning was a reason I played the piano in high school. Sadly, no swooning. Maybe a dog howl once or twice.


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Very nice, Lisa. I didn't know Hugh had a tutorial for this. Maybe I'll give it a try this summer with you, if I can find time wink


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That's nice. I did that piece last summer.

With a well-known piece like this it's really super-important to count because if you rely on your ears you will most likely get it wrong as everyone plays it with some rubato. You can add rubato later but in the early stages you have to be precise with those duplets in 9/8.

The trickiest bit of course is the fast arpeggios in the middle section. There is no good fingering for some of them so just find the least bad one. wink

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BTW that tutorial is more like a course - 67 (yes sixty seven!) videos about a single piece! 😲

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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
That's nice. I did that piece last summer.

With a well-known piece like this it's really super-important to count because if you rely on your ears you will most likely get it wrong as everyone plays it with some rubato. You can add rubato later but in the early stages you have to be precise with those duplets in 9/8.

The trickiest bit of course is the fast arpeggios in the middle section. There is no good fingering for some of them so just find the least bad one. wink
I think teachers have their students try the Arabesque pieces first before this piece to get used to counting duple against triplets and so forth.


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Originally Posted by Emery Wang
The hope of young women swooning was a reason I played the piano in high school. Sadly, no swooning. Maybe a dog howl once or twice.
Back in college I wrote a piano arrangement for Howard Jones, "No one is to Blame" and played that wherever I saw a piano on campus. That song was a chick magnet! Thankfully I stayed away from the 80's haircuts.




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Originally Posted by ebonyk
I had a look at a few of those videos but I find that he spends way too much time on basic stuff. I mean, if you want to play CdL you should be several years beyond key signatures and note values. At this level I expect a teacher to spend much more time on interpretation and technical problems than basic reading of the text. Save yourself some time and watch the John Mortensen series on CdL instead:


There are also some great videos by other teachers like Josh Wright and Graham Fitch. I find these much more insightful than having someone go through the notes for over sixty lessons.

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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
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I had a look at a few of those videos but I find that he spends way too much time on basic stuff. I mean, if you want to play CdL you should be several years beyond key signatures and note values. At this level I expect a teacher to spend much more time on interpretation and technical problems than basic reading of the text.[...]

Yes, I agree that anyone hoping to study - and eventually play - Clair de lune should not need lessons on finding each note on the keyboard, measure by measure. Those that do need this kind of hand-holding instruction should not be attempting this work to begin with.

That said, Mr. Sung is a fine pianist and some of his videos are very well done. Keep in mind that these videos (at least the first few I watched) were made 12 years ago. We can reasonably assume that Mr. Sung has refined and perhaps streamlined his teaching techniques since then.

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Originally Posted by Jethro
If you are doing RCM 7-8 that piece should be within your grasp I would think- not that I know much about that system. With lots of practice the piece will come intuitively.
I’m sure you’re right, I’ve just always been intimidated by this piece! I hope to conquer my fear by learning in this way. 😊👍


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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
BTW that tutorial is more like a course - 67 (yes sixty seven!) videos about a single piece! 😲
That’s what encouraged me! 😂😂😂

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Very nice, Lisa. I didn't know Hugh had a tutorial for this. Maybe I'll give it a try this summer with you, if I can find time wink
Let’s see what happens, that would be fun! 😊❤️

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The hope of young women swooning was a reason I played the piano in high school. Sadly, no swooning. Maybe a dog howl once or twice.
Back in college I wrote a piano arrangement for Howard Jones, "No one is to Blame" and played that wherever I saw a piano on campus. That song was a chick magnet! Thankfully I stayed away from the 80's haircuts.



OMG, this was one of my favorite songs back then!! 😍😍😍


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I had a look at a few of those videos but I find that he spends way too much time on basic stuff. I mean, if you want to play CdL you should be several years beyond key signatures and note values. At this level I expect a teacher to spend much more time on interpretation and technical problems than basic reading of the text. Save yourself some time and watch the John Mortensen series on CdL instead:


There are also some great videos by other teachers like Josh Wright and Graham Fitch. I find these much more insightful than having someone go through the notes for over sixty lessons.
I’ll check these out, thanks! 😊👍


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Great story, Jethro, uplifting!


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Lisa, this is an amazing piece. I worked on it about 1.5 yrs ago. It was above my level but I got through it, mostly. I never attempted to perform it or record it though. Maybe I’ll try again when you start. How about a thread dedicated to this one?


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Hi Craig!! I adore this piece, I’m hoping it works out for me! A dedicated thread would be a good idea. 👍😊❤️


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Originally Posted by ebonyk
Originally Posted by Jethro
If you are doing RCM 7-8 that piece should be within your grasp I would think- not that I know much about that system. With lots of practice the piece will come intuitively.
I’m sure you’re right, I’ve just always been intimidated by this piece! I hope to conquer my fear by learning in this way. 😊👍

Just for the record: Clair de lune is level 10 in the current RCM piano syllabus.

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So, ebonyk, how are you progressing with this?


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