2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
72 members (BlakeOR, BlaisGuitars, AlphaTerminus, anotherscott, bilb, AaronSF, 18 invisible), 1,024 guests, and 522 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 28
O
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
O
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 28
I can read music, very slow at it, took lessons years ago. I'm 66 and want to learn to play lots of songs faster. What do you think of The Piano Guy, Scott Houston who was also featured on PBS. One course would cost me about $185 Cdn. Or please suggest another method.

Christina

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,616
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,616
Hi Christina, I am not sure what you mean exactly.

* You are slow at reading music, but when you have practised a piece, can you play it fast enough? Or do you still play slowly, even after practising? If this is the matter, I think you'll need to work with technique. However, even with improving technique, the ability to play faster develops slowly, so you'll need to be patient.
* Or do you want to learn faster, so you don't need to spend so much time with each piece? In that case, you simply need to practise lots and lots of pieces, and slowly slowly, you'll learn a piece a bit faster.

I don't know anything about Piano in a Flash, but I don't see that you can get individual feedback which is extremely important if you need to improve you technique. For that, I can recommend Piano Career Academy. You can start with a month to see if it suits you. smile


Playing the piano is learning to create, playfully and deeply seriously, our own music in the world.
*
... feeling like the pianist on the Titanic ...
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,837
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,837
I had the opportunity to meet Scott Houston many years ago before he started his TV series. His main focus is teaching people to play Jazz & Pop using Lead Sheets (simplified notations that include a melody line with LH chords). He doesn't get into Classical piano music with 2 staffs (Treble & Bass).

His TV series "Scott, the Piano Guy" & "Piano in a Flash" is all Jazz & Pop arrangements for piano. I do watch his videos from time to time but I'm mainly into Classical and can read music on 2 staffs at an intermediate level.

You have to decide whether your interest is Classical music (Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, etc.) or the popular style of playing Scott is teaching.

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,700
D
dmd Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,700
Originally Posted by onestrokeartist
I can read music, very slow at it, took lessons years ago. I'm 66 and want to learn to play lots of songs faster. What do you think of The Piano Guy, Scott Houston who was also featured on PBS. One course would cost me about $185 Cdn. Or please suggest another method.

I purchased the Piano In A Flash course years ago and went through it.

I also purchased the Duane Shinn Crash Course and only went through a few lessons.

In my opinion, you get more for your money with the Duane Shinn course.

Either course will teach you things you do not know so in that sense they are worthwhile.

You have already experienced lessons from a live teacher, so you know what that is.


You say you want to "learn to play lots of songs faster".

Yes, I hear you.

We all want that.



The truth is .... learning to play piano takes time and a lot of practice.

If you enjoy practicing you have a chance to be successful.

Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts or "faster" ways to get there.


I would recommend working with a live teacher.

Describe the type of music you would like to learn to play and let that teacher help you get there.

Regular lessons with the right teacher will help you gain the skills you need in order to play music that others enjoy hearing.

If after a few months of lessons, you are unhappy with things .... get a different teacher .... until you find one that works for you.


Did I mention .... there are no shortcuts ?

You just have to do the work.

Good Luck


Don

Kawai MP7SE, Pianoteq, FocusRite Scarlett 2i2 Audio Interface, Yamaha MG06 Mixer
KRK 5" Studio Monitors or Edifier R1850DB Bookshelf speakers or SennHeiser HD 559 Headphones
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,319
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,319
Originally Posted by dmd
Originally Posted by onestrokeartist
I can read music, very slow at it, took lessons years ago. I'm 66 and want to learn to play lots of songs faster. What do you think of The Piano Guy, Scott Houston who was also featured on PBS. One course would cost me about $185 Cdn. Or please suggest another method.

I purchased the Piano In A Flash course years ago and went through it.

I also purchased the Duane Shinn Crash Course and only went through a few lessons.

In my opinion, you get more for your money with the Duane Shinn course.

Either course will teach you things you do not know so in that sense they are worthwhile.

You have already experienced lessons from a live teacher, so you know what that is.


You say you want to "learn to play lots of songs faster".

Yes, I hear you.

We all want that.



The truth is .... learning to play piano takes time and a lot of practice.

If you enjoy practicing you have a chance to be successful.

Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts or "faster" ways to get there.


I would recommend working with a live teacher.

Describe the type of music you would like to learn to play and let that teacher help you get there.

Regular lessons with the right teacher will help you gain the skills you need in order to play music that others enjoy hearing.

If after a few months of lessons, you are unhappy with things .... get a different teacher .... until you find one that works for you.


Did I mention .... there are no shortcuts ?

You just have to do the work.

Good Luck

+1

I'm familiar with Scott Houston, "The Piano Guy", and I like him. He has a great personality, and very personable. That said, I think his greatest skill is marketing. He sells "encouragement" and "motivation" more so than superb lessons on how to read music notation and play the piano at tempo, while reading.

That is not a criticism, but just the way I see it. Again, Scott is VERY likable and friendly. And, his course would be great if you just want to be able to play some familiar favorites that are pretty simple. But that can be fun too.

I came across a guy on Facebook named "Jonny May", who also offers online courses, for a variety of genres, or by ear playing. He starts out with some free video lessons, which are very good, and then offers his more in depth lessons for a cost. I signed up for a few of his lessons, but don't spend enough time watching them.

Also FWIW, there are lots and lots of YT video piano lessons online for free. You just have to find them and watch them multiple times. Or, the face-to-face teacher may be the way to go, with COVID settling down a bit.

I want to learn to read music notation better and faster too, but I don't think Scott is our man for that particular goal, although you still may learn something and enjoy it if you pay for his online lessons.

Just a few of my own thoughts.

Wishing you all the best!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 28
O
Full Member
OP Offline
Full Member
O
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 28
Thank you everyone who replied. I think I'm going to just practise. I know the basics so I'm just being impatient. And I like classical too so I don't like being put into a box - just learn jazz or whatever. I'm just going to go with my Easy Piano books and soldier on. Thank you again!

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,319
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,319
Originally Posted by onestrokeartist
Thank you everyone who replied. I think I'm going to just practise. I know the basics so I'm just being impatient. And I like classical too so I don't like being put into a box - just learn jazz or whatever. I'm just going to go with my Easy Piano books and soldier on. Thank you again!

I'm in the same boat, and we are about the same age. I've been learning to play by ear, mostly on my own, for about 15 years. I've had a ball and enjoyed it a lot, but now realize I would have progressed faster with some kind of instruction. But doing our own thing is appealing and is a lot of fun too, as well as rewarding; and, I have made some progress.

I recently purchased the Alfred's Premier Piano Express, All-In-One Accelerated course book. That is what one of the free Facebook piano lesson instructors is going through. I believe there is an ongoing thread here that is using that book (?) http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...ult-piano-course-book-1.html#Post1070137

Oddly enough, I have not been participating in that thread, but maybe I should. smile

Rest assured that most everything you have learned thus far is a positive thing, and you can build on that.

When it comes to learning to read music while sitting at the piano, like someone else said, it just takes time, effort, and practice to progress at it and get better at it over time.

My biggest problem is also being too impatient. I'll get started with the sheet music, and drift off on a fast boogie-woogie tune and forget all about the music reading. smile

Good luck, and keep up the good work!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel

Moderated by  BB Player 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Just Completed My 42 Week Pandemic Teaching Project
by tonystride - 06/22/21 03:41 PM
Kawai NV5 Users Group
by JBishop - 06/22/21 03:28 PM
Vax77 Folding Piano Review 2021
by AlphaTerminus - 06/22/21 01:12 PM
Recording an upright using ORTF?
by Beemer - 06/22/21 11:46 AM
Caution with cheap SSDs
by newer player - 06/22/21 11:08 AM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics207,655
Posts3,106,285
Members101,884
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers

Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | MapleStreetMusicShop.com - Our store in Cornish Maine


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5