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Does anyone remember this great scene from "Amadeus" when Mozart makes fun of Salieri's newly composed court piece for the king?



And, there is actually a notated score for this piece that I have further annotated myself with Mozart's talking / comments and the mocking laughter written in -- as he is playing the score:

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It's Non più andrai from The Marriage of Figaro:



For the scene, the music is reworked back to its basic harmonies, which was Salieri's 'original' little ditty for keyboard, from which Wolfie allegedly improvised on and expanded..........


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Let's all Petition Netflix, more piano movies.

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Originally Posted by bennevis
It's Non più andrai from The Marriage of Figaro:

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For the scene, the music is reworked back to its basic harmonies, which was Salieri's 'original' little ditty for keyboard, from which Wolfie allegedly improvised on and expanded..........
I seem to recall hearing this sung in English - ah, yes, here it is: Peter Dawson - Non piu andrai


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the whole movie is based on a fantasy by Pushkin, Salieri was a nice man, and a teacher of Beethoven's. And not at all a bad composer as most people tend to think after watching the film, fake news.


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I concur. I dont like too much this movie which is childlish and is a caricature, based on a play. Factually this scene actually never happend. Salieri is a good composer, who tried to help Mozart. He was highly recognized in Vienna, much more than Mozart has ever been and had no reason to be jealous. He also taught several key figures like Beethoven and Schubert. And he was also the teacher of Mozart son, at the request of his wife Constance !

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Originally Posted by dolce sfogato
the whole movie is based on a fantasy by Pushkin, Salieri was a nice man, and a teacher of Beethoven's. And not at all a bad composer as most people tend to think after watching the film, fake news.

What's a good reference for the accurate drama of this timeline.

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Originally Posted by Sidokar
I concur. I dont like too much this movie which is childlish and is a caricature, based on a play. Factually this scene actually never happend.
All publicity is good publicity, as Mozart would say (or - 'There is no such thing as bad publicity.') And I'm pretty sure that "Amadeus" introduced many people to the delights of classical music......especially when they see that classical composers & musicians can be susceptible to little (& large) foibles, just like normal people. grin

Very little in the movie was true (apart from Mozart's scatological obsession, which he apparently shared with his close circle) but it did introduce non-classical (and even classical) audiences to a wide range of great music, quite a lot of which is not 'popular' Mozart. There is no Eine kleine Nachtmusik or K545, or even K550 in the movie, for example. And I have the movie to thank for introducing me to Pergolesi's Stabat Mater, which at the time I'd never heard (as I was relatively young & innocent then whistle), and which subsequently became one of my favorite religious works.

When it was released, I was on holiday in the Netherlands, and had to watch it while in Amsterdam - and was amazed that at the end, there was complete silence, and not a single person in the packed cinema got up to leave during the long closing credits (when all the music and the performers was listed), accompanied by the Romanze from K466, after which there was prolonged applause. Maybe the Dutch really love their Mozart, I thought, and couldn't bear to leave before all the music was finished.

When I returned home, I watched it again in a cinema in London - without Dutch subtitles - and again the same happened.

Maybe, we all love Mozart........ thumb



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I think the tragic shortness of life of this wonderful composer, combined with the notion that his last unfinished composition was a Requiem-mass... added to the fact that in his day corpses were buried outside the city bounderies because of a plague, how unlike our days, And his everlasting popularity may have given rise to some sort of legendary stories, the truth was so much simpler.


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Originally Posted by grand_BB_71
And, there is actually a notated score for this piece that I have further annotated myself with Mozart's talking / comments and the mocking laughter written in -- as he is playing the score:

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How about the score?

Everyone already knows that the Amadeus movie was not very factual -- however, the point of the post was to share the SCORE above with my own annotations of Mozart's comments added to the playing -- it is exactly as Tim Hulce does this as he sort of fake performs the playing -- have been playing through the piece myself and find it to be rather fun to play while adding in the vocal comments -- and, it's not that hard!

Does anyone else like the score and want to give it a go?

Feel free to study it and post your videos. grin

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The funniest scene for me was the one following this one where Salieri stars at the crucifix with contempt and says sarcastically, "Grazi, signore."


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People who enjoy the movie as much as I do (over the years I have seen it about 25 times in three languages), most recently (before COVID) with the Seattle Symphony Orchestra playing the music (Amadeus, Live!) might enjoy this documentary:


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There is the famous scene of Handel vs. Scarlatti also fun to watch:



People who wrote great music were also improvisers before writing many of the themes down on paper and published into scores.


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