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Hamilton Baby Grand Player Piano, Model H396 in Polished Ebony (HPE) and matching bench.
This piano has the Baldwin ConcertMaster MarkII CD Player installed and comes with 3 QRS Sampler CDs. Asking 4K negotiable. Looks very well taken care of from pics

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Yamaha GB1K Grande Piano. Says mint condition pictures look like it’s in excellent shape from pics. And has been taken care of say owner. Not a player piano. 6k firm

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Kohler and Campbell Polished mahogany baby grand piano
SKG 600,Self player piano,5'9, x-posted
$3,000

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J Strauss & Sons 60” piano & bench 2005 paid $10.,800 Mint condition with player. $3000


Not sure which one I should buy. Thank you for all your help as I don’t know if Hamilton or Koehler and Campbell is a good piano or just spend double for the Yamaha with out the player. Thank you for your help.

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What are the ages of all these? Where are you located? You can also read up on the brands here, it might answer some questions you have. 😊 https://www.pianobuyer.com/brand-profiles/


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In order to give you a better answer, and in addition to Lisa's questions above:

How are these pianos going to be used?
What percentage of the playing time these pianos will get is with the player system?
Have you personally evaluated the touch and tone and appearance of each?
Did you check that the player systems were working properly?
Did you look up whether the player systems are still available in terms of parts for repairs and music?
Do you know the last time each of these pianos were serviced?

You're looking at used, mostly entry-level small grand pianos. Many of the player systems were added after the piano was built, which can be sort of a crapshoot. Test that those systems and the pedals work properly. If you don't know much about them, I'd suggest hiring a technician to carefully inspect your top choice, prior to purchase. If this is for an intermediate or high-level player, or is going to be subjected to intensive daily practicing, I might recommend something else. But a verified-ok-by-inspection one of these could work for a beginner, hobbyist, or furniture piece for someone that really wanted a baby grand in the living room.

It has been my experience that sellers that say a piano is in "mint condition" are not being truthful, the overwhelming majority of the time... That sounds like a car ad, no musician would ever describe a piano this way! smile


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So the Hamilton is from early 2000. I went to look at it. The piano was recently tuned and had some other work done. One key wasn’t perfectly up a little stuck. But inside was really clean not any build up or mold. The owner said they really never used it. Only a handful of times. Player worked and played I think as it should. But it’s discontinued. 3k was the price. But no scratches and was very clean. He said the tuner came and was amazed how clean and the condition it was in.

The player kohler Campbell with player is from 96. Going to see it now.

The piano is for my daughter to learn how to play. Thank you

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Early 2000s Chinese pianos were still rather inconsistent. Certain parts may be difficult to find as companies or model lines went in and out of business/production. On the one hand, it's good that it was recently serviced. On the other, it's a little worry that something still wasn't right after it was serviced. It's hard to know without seeing the piano, of course.

Aftermarket player pianos add a layer of complexity to the situation that is not necessary if the system is unlikely to be used. Pedal hardware and geometry gets changed, slots have to be cut into the key bed, not all technicians know how to service/repair them, etc.

Generically, with a budget of $3-6k I'd typically suggest a used 45" studio or 48-52" full/professional upright piano less than 20 years old from a well-established brand (and not the promotional models from said brands). It doesn't have the small grand piano look or action design, but typically it's going to be a higher quality, more reliable, more durable option with a tone that's likely more even from top to bottom.


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