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#3096315 03/22/21 09:47 AM
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Hello everyone!

This is probably a weird question, but I would like to paint my Kawai Mp11. Well, I don't exactly want to paint it entirely, I just would like to make a few small touches to the surface where it has lost the original painting due to rubbing.

Since the part to be painted looks like aluminum, I was thinking of using a touch-up brush similar to the one used for cars. It could work? Maybe someone come up with a better idea? Perhaps Kawai James could recommend something?

I am attaching some photos so you can see what I would like to fix and retouch.

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I know you want a pro-look but...... from the cheap seats: Try a Sharpie.

The broad, flat surfaces are a super challenge... but edges and the like can be hidden quite effectively with just a Sharpie.

Maybe Kawai will sell you just the panels. Worth and email to them... I would go straight to their Japan site

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Yes, a Sharpie works wonders.
And for wood finishes ... there are other brands of marker available in colors that are specific for each type of wood.

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If the sharpie doesn't work out, I'd use a foam paint brush instead of a hair one. It's something that'll leave a more flat than textured surface. The best for that is spray paint but your situation doesn't call for that, you'll just have to be careful with a foam brush.


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For the aluminum, you might need to sand, clean, etch primer, and paint. That can be time consuming and (very) expensive.

Another alternative is to consider just applying model (car, train, plane) paints after some basic surface prep. I found the perfect Tamiya black for some loudspeakers by luck. There are other model paint brands so maybe you can approximate the black. The model store can help you with brushes and advice.

Maybe a sharpie gets you close enough for 5 duros. A wood pencil would be best for the wood. On that edge you might try some fine sandpaper before hand.

Regardless, you need to make sure not to get any sanding dust or liquids into the keyboard or controls.

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I think matching the shade of black/gloss is going to be the hardest part really, well it depends on how perfectionist you are about that. smile


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I have some experience in painting car bodies.

This finish actually isn't that difficult to achieve with spray cans. The hard part is to disassemble the parts, covering the prints, and cleaning up. You only need to get a black glossy auto paint.

It's not smooth like a car or what it's called the piano black. It has a visible orange peel finish to it. So lots of cleaning and sanding and days of paintings and you'll fix the problem. It probably won't need more than a can.

You can apply a clear perotective coat finish on it to achieve a super glossy effect but the original paint doesn't have that. I don't think the finish is black though. So good luck matching the colors.

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Consider a vinyl wrap instead of trying to touch it up. My friend used to do that on cars for her full time job, but also did side jobs on all kinds of things including stage pianos. That's how they get those crazy looking finishes for concerts. If you're halfway handy you could try it yourself, there aren't any tough contours on a stage piano.


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I would suggest you not do anything that cannot be UNDONE.

If you are not careful you will transform your MP11 from USED looking into JUNKY looking.


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What would be the harm? Doesn't it already look JUNKY?

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I had no idea you could vinyl wrap a piano. That's a really great idea! Seems like an ideal solution for the OP too.


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It does seem appealing ...
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I had no idea you could vinyl wrap a piano. That's a really great idea! Seems like an ideal solution for the OP too.
But who knows how to do it properly? And how much would it cost?

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The vinyl wrap is not uber-durable. It also has strong adhesion, so removal risks lifting some lettering and paint.

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I would suggest you not do anything that cannot be UNDONE.

If you are not careful you will transform your MP11 from USED looking into JUNKY looking.
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Here's a thread from a guy who wrapped his own digital, came out pretty good. My friend said if you buy a quality wrap it comes off clean, using heat results in the adhesive staying on the vinyl so the original surface stays clean. She used 3M wrap on cars.


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Or you can wear the scars with pride. Definitely has been used.


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Or you can wear the scars with pride. Definitely has been used.

Funny how that's more a cello thing than a piano thing.


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I had some knocks on my ES4, and black Sharpie did a good-enough job. I didn't notice the patches unless I was looking for them. Those were on a wooden part, rather than metal.


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Originally Posted by MarkL
Here's a thread from a guy who wrapped his own digital, came out pretty good. My friend said if you buy a quality wrap it comes off clean, using heat results in the adhesive staying on the vinyl so the original surface stays clean. She used 3M wrap on cars.

Umm... maybe not. A friend purchased a used car that was fully wrapped... it didn't look good... removing that thing was a real nightmare... heat lamps the whole deal... WD40.... everything tried and nothing worked. 3M makes a solvent that doesn't work well either. You are taking a big chance with those wraps.

Consider anything you do permanent. "Temporary" just lowers our resistance to buy. Don't do it.

Heck, if you are considering a wrap, consider Plasti Dip. Google it... there is a world of weird crap out there.....

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Are we still talking about wrapping our pianos in vinyl?

If we only dedicated half the time we spend on bickering, speculating, and wrapping our pianos in vinyl, we’d have more Wangs in this world!

Ms. Wang might show up short on dressing but never short on preparation. That woman works her *** off!

Do you think she’s concerned about painting her Steinway with a sharpie or wondering about how much better the CFX is? No! She wakes up everyday and heads over to her ugly, cheap and lowly Steinway and practices despite!

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