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#3087141 02/26/21 06:31 PM
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I have a Juno DS-76. I have been using it for a lot of synth sounds, and haven't really been in need of a damper pedal. But now I am starting to use it more for piano sounds, and I'd like to get a damper pedal for it.

I'm a little confused about how damper pedals work on digital pianos like the DS. Is there a pedal I can buy that will simulate the behavior of a three-pedal damper that you'd find on an acoustic piano? Second best would be a single pedal that could be used to extend the release, a la the pedal on the right on an acoustic piano.

I currently have a couple of pedals, but they are not ideal. I have a single pedal On Stage KSP100 sustain pedal. But that seems to be just a simple "on/off" switch, so all it does it continuously hold the note until I switch it off.

I also have a Dunlop Volume (X) Mini expression pedal. That works better - I plug it into the control input on the DS, and it allows me to adjust the Release parameter. However, it also is not ideal, because when I want to "let go" of the pedal, I can't just take my foot off -- I have to set it to a precise release point that is how the piano would sound without a release pedal being depressed. If I turn the foot pedal all the way down, the piano sound cuts off too abruptly, so it sounds unnatural.

So, I'd love to get a pedal that, when I take my foot off, will revert back to the default patch setting, as opposed to bringing the release all the way down to zero. Is anybody aware of a pedal that would work in this manner with the Juno DS?

Thanks for any help!

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To clarify my original post, the KSP100 pedal I mentioned does allow the sound to fade out even when I hold it down -- it's not like it just turns the sustain parameter to 127. But, it doesn't allow for any gradual variation in the AMOUNT of release. So, if the pedal is not depressed, it is just the standard release in the patch, and when it's depressed, it's a longer release, but there's no "in between" amount. I guess this is actually better than the expression pedal, and maybe this is the best I can do with a single pedal. But I am wondering if a three-pedal unit would allow me to get more variation.

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Hello,

I'm assuming that you mean to use the internal sounds of your Juno. So if you are looking for variable sustain, its sound generator should feature that, otherwise it just isn't possible, regardless of what pedal you use. If it does:-

I looked up the Juno's rear connections. It has two: Control and Hold.

This means that you cannot connect three pedals, but a maximum of two. I assume (please verify in your manual) that Control takes a continuous pedal (which allows a gradual range from 0--127), and Hold an on/off type pedal (which provides 0/127 only).

See if these connections can be reassigned their functions, e.g. either Control is used on cc64 (sustain) or Hold is used on cc64. If so, you can have a continuous pedal on Control and assign that to sustain. Then if you like, you can have an on/off pedal on Hold, and assign that to something else like Sostenuto or Soft (again, only if the Juno's internal sounds have such functions).

Roland's own DP-10 pedal has a little switch on it, enabling it to act either as a continuous pedal or as an on/off type pedal. I'd assume it is compatible with your Roland Juno, maybe this can be verified in the Juno manual as well.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

HZ


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