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Originally Posted by David B
I had to share this with my wife because she made me put my N1X in the basement due to the "Chinese water torture effect" from me practicing all the time and I'm just learning to play the basics.
Staying OT this is what gets overlooked when there are discussions about neighbours being intolerant to hearing piano next door. Practice, and composing, is mostly not musical at all, and comes down to intolerable noise.

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
But who knows, I might just end up keeping it if I can't sell it where I won't take a big hit on it.
If you dislike the piano, you should either trade it in or sell it rather than have it collect dust and depreciate.

It might be easiest to resell back to your dealer.

There is a global shortage of new hybrid and digital pianos so this is not a bad time to sell. I only see one used avantgrand in the LA area. I don't see any used Nu1x, N1x, N2 in California for sale. I see the following used N3 models in California for sale:

- N3 Cali OAKLAND $9950 Piedmont Piano Co
- N3x Cali CARLSBAD $15000 PianoBuyer

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Originally Posted by David B
I had to share this with my wife because she made me put my N1X in the basement due to the "Chinese water torture effect" from me practicing all the time and I'm just learning to play the basics.
Staying OT this is what gets overlooked when there are discussions about neighbours being intolerant to hearing piano next door. Practice, and composing, is mostly not musical at all, and comes down to intolerable noise.

You know, my wife qualifies for Sainthood in that she's listened to me practice for almost 50 years. Well, the last 20 we've had the studio, so I guess she's had a break. grin

But yes serious, under the microscope practice can be intense and a burden on even the most tolerant person.


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When I used to play jazz, I got fed up with myself when practicing those rootless chords with some impro above. And that's despite the fact I knew the harmonic logic behind those rootless chords. Then imagine for a listener 😀


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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
For the time being, it's just sitting there. Looks great but not being played much, if at all. Seems like sort of a waste and again, a really expensive note pad.

Dave, you know how I feel about my N2 (I love it - zero room in my house for a grand.) I have a question, if you bought a used N3 or used N1, N2 or N1X and paid $7000 or less, would you be more incline to liking it more, for what it is, and enjoy it more? I know I would have trouble justifying a huge expense for a practice piano with a D sitting out in my studio.


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I guess the N3X is in a very specific market position, since it does take space like a real acoustic ... but isn't smaller than regular acoustic grands? I remember my piano teacher advising against very small grands because their sound was usually worse than uprights, so that's where the N3X shines I guess.
Plus, it's pretty grin.

This is precisely why I opted for the N3X over a 5-foot Yamaha GB1K Silent Grand. Far more sound and low-end resonance for the size. I wouldn't characterize the N3X as being the same size as acoustic grands, at least none worth mentioning... it's a nice and tidy size... still the crown jewel of my living room a couple years in... wink


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For the time being, it's just sitting there. Looks great but not being played much, if at all. Seems like sort of a waste and again, a really expensive note pad.

Dave, you know how I feel about my N2 (I love it - zero room in my house for a grand.) I have a question, if you bought a used N3 or used N1, N2 or N1X and paid $7000 or less, would you be more incline to liking it more, for what it is, and enjoy it more? I know I would have trouble justifying a huge expense for a practice piano with a D sitting out in my studio.

Peter, hmm.... I'm not sure about that. But in any case I've decided, at least for the time being, to hold onto it. As time goes on, I think I'll have more appreciation for its function in the house. And again, it makes my wife happy to have it there...as long as I practice quietly. laugh

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But in any case I've decided, at least for the time being, to hold onto it. As time goes on, I think I'll have more appreciation for its function in the house. And again, it makes my wife happy to have it there...as long as I practice quietly. laugh

Hi Dave, I finally caught up on your saga... I'm a neophyte compared to you but I'm hoping you settle in and find good use for your N3X. What percent of the time would you say you use headphones?

I used to have mine tucked in the corner like yours but ended up turning it around to where the piano lid opens towards the room. Found the acoustics to be much, much better this way. As a bonus, it allowed me to tuck a microphone stand, laptop, and mixer to the left of the piano bench for much more functionality without the visible mess. (I'm married too... ha!)


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Hi. In the limited time I've played it in the eleven days I've owned it, I haven't used the headphones at all. That was one of the main purposes of getting something with speakers. In hindsight, I should've just bought a P-515, or something like that. I would say it has 35 minutes of total time on it, if even that. Maybe 3-5 minutes a day. I'm trying to acclimate to it but it's not going well.

I got in almost 3 and a half hours practice yesterday. Thought I'd try for 15 minutes on the AG. I got up after 45 seconds. wink frown

Regarding placement- we had the movers try various positions and it seemed to be the best fit tucked into that corner. It looked weird, or off scale, having it against the wall with the open lid towards the room, like my old S6 was positioned. It looked too stubby might be the best way to describe it.

I'm doing some heavy lobbying for a 7'er.


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Sorry to hear about your struggles... I agree tucked in the corner is most economical for space... I, too, tried it facing the room originally and did not think (on first blush) it made a difference.

But after months of struggles I said " heck, let's try again," turned it around, and gave it another go. After a week I was convinced the effect was not placebo; it really did sound better (and looked acceptable to the wife............ after a time). It sounds like you're in dire straits, there. May I humbly suggest you give it a try? What else ya got to lose?

... Of course it really doesn't help that you're jumping back and forth between a quality acoustic grand and the AG! I think you'd have a much time acclimating if the AG was all you had!


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