2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
48 members (beeboss, Anglagard44, barbaram, Calavera, clothearednincompo, CraiginNZ, 8opus, 12 invisible), 1,356 guests, and 466 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 2
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 2
I currently own a white Yamaha P115 and considering changing it for either a Casio PXS1000 or maybe a Kawai ES100.

I'm a bit fed up of the white colour for a start (probably a mistake) and so i'm looking for a nice black piano that's a bit more up to date. The Casio stands out to me. I've read some good reviews, especially regarding the sound quality and key action.

My dilemma is that i enjoy the bright clear Yamaha grand piano sound on the P115. It's what i'm accustomed to. I've watched Youtube clips of the Casio and it does sound a bit more dull and mellow to me? But it could just be how i'm hearing it through my computer. Without being able to test one in person at the moment it's hard to compare.

Question: would you recommend the casio or would you stick with the P115? Does the Casio have a superior sound quality/action?

Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,657
O
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
O
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,657
What's your budget? If you like Yamaha's sound - you should consider Yamaha P125 or P515 - depending on the budget. Also, wait for NAAM announcements next week as there may be upgrades to these models (and similar ones from Kawai, Roland).

Osho


Mason & Hamlin BB
Kawai Novus NV10 + VST + Genelec 8050B monitors.
Current VST favorites (in the order of preference): Pianoteq 7/VSL Synchron Concert D//Garritan CFX/Embertone Walker D Full

[Linked Image]
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,847
C
2000 Post Club Member
Online Content
2000 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,847
Originally Posted by PaulWeikert
Does the Casio have a superior sound quality/action?

There are people who hate Casio's piano sound.

There are people who say that the PX-S key action is severely flawed.

And then there are people who like the PX-S models.

Opinions vary and it's difficult to come up with objective ways to measure the "goodness".

To call it "superior" doesn't sound right.

And do you mean Kawai ES110 or the old ES100? The latter would have to be a used unit.

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,495
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,495
Kawai ES110 wins.


Jazz piano Instructor. Technical Editor for Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book". Studied with Mark Levine, Art Lande & Mark Isham (1981-1990). Also: Barry Harris & Monty Alexander (1993-present)
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,722
D
dmd Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,722
The CASIO PX-S1000 is very good .... except .... the short key length makes it difficult to press keys down near the back of the keybed.

I owned one, and still have it.

Will be trying to sell it.

If you do not have much need to press keys down near back .... should be fine.

I would pick the Kawai ES110 for sound and keys.


Don

Kawai MP7SE, Pianoteq, FocusRite Scarlett 2i2 Audio Interface, Yamaha MG06 Mixer
KRK 5" Studio Monitors or Edifier R1850DB Bookshelf speakers or SennHeiser HD 559 Headphones
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 483
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Oct 2020
Posts: 483
I'm biased. I like the Casio's keyboard touch and I enjoy the Grand Concert Piano setting almost exclusively. The only other keyboard I am intimately familiar with is my 60 year old Baldwin Acrosonic, and I prefer to play my Casio because I feel I have more control over what comes out of it than I do with the Baldwin.

Last edited by trooplewis; 01/11/21 08:09 PM.

Casio PX-S3000
Nope, no issues with it at all.
Took lessons from 1960 to 1969, stopped at age 16.
Started again in July 2020 at age 67. Lots more fun now!
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,441
C
6000 Post Club Member
Offline
6000 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,441
FWIW--

IMHO, none of your "candidate replacements" offers a significant improvement in overall quality.

With a P-115 already in the house, consider saving up for a while, and doing a _real_ upgrade:

. . . P-515
. . . whatever the replacement is, for the Kawai ES-8;
. . . a Roland FP-90, which might be on sale since its replacement
. . . .... . FP-90X was just announced.

Or see if you can arrange to use a computer for your sound generator, and experiment with VST's (Pianoteq, etc), played from the P-115 keyboard.

Waiting for NAMM announcements might be worthwhile.


. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 207
O
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
O
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 207
You must try before you buy. Don't even bother with YouTube and reviews... The reality is often far different. Sound and feel are very personal, what one person loves another will hate.

Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 25
M
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
M
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 25
Out of those options, I personally like the Kawai, but if you can setech you budget, you could get a Yamaha P515, Kawai ES920, or the soon to be released Roland FP90X (just announced) as the above person mentioned.

Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
FWIW--

IMHO, none of your "candidate replacements" offers a significant improvement in overall quality.

With a P-115 already in the house, consider saving up for a while, and doing a _real_ upgrade:

. . . P-515
. . . whatever the replacement is, for the Kawai ES-8;
. . . a Roland FP-90, which might be on sale since its replacement
. . . .... . FP-90X was just announced.

Or see if you can arrange to use a computer for your sound generator, and experiment with VST's (Pianoteq, etc), played from the P-115 keyboard.

Waiting for NAMM announcements might be worthwhile.

+1

Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 25
M
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
M
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 25
Originally Posted by OU812
You must try before you buy. Don't even bother with YouTube and reviews... The reality is often far different. Sound and feel are very personal, what one person loves another will hate.

Agreed here. The sound and action is very subjective to people’s tastes, and it is ideal to try them out in person before buying, as one need to get both the sound and more importantly, the feel (action) of the instrument.

Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 2
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 2
Thanks all for your advice. I think I'll wait until I can test in person and see what the NAMM announcements are.


Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Recital #63 - Call for Submissions
by Sam S - 08/01/21 05:58 AM
Under-piano pedal wood replacement
by Js367 - 08/01/21 01:25 AM
Everett upright Regulation
by wenhen90 - 07/31/21 06:57 PM
Marx
by dolce sfogato - 07/31/21 04:05 PM
Self-teaching and looking for good exercises
by TORaptors2019 - 07/31/21 03:46 PM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics208,311
Posts3,118,013
Members102,295
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers

Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | MapleStreetMusicShop.com - Our store in Cornish Maine


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5