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Thanks CG for all the updates.. very helpful.

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So, I can confirm: Garritan CFX Full works on M1 CPU and will be glitch-free at buffer size of 128 but will require that you close all other apps.

That's good to know. And, it should only get better once Aria engine is ported to native M1 binary.

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Ah i just sold my 2018 Mac mini so i Will order a M1 mini soon laugh

Even though it hurts a little I think I will go for 16gb of ram... just to be able to relax. But damn the ram is expensive.

Also a shame that there is no space grey alternative... like those much more.

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My wife was trying to mock me a little with "that looks like a girlie laptop" 🤣 But the gold is actually pretty subtle and it grows on me. Well, I'm color blind too, so one shouldn't trust me a lot on colors 🏳️‍🌈


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CyberGene - you shouldn't try to do any benchmarks on a Mac the first day or so. It will be indexing your disk in the background for Spotlight and that can take hours and have a drastic effect on performance, especially anything that has to access your disk. We see this quite often when inexperienced people get a new Mac and immediately run benchmarking tests and publish their results on the net.


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Originally Posted by Macy
CyberGene - you shouldn't try to do any benchmarks on a Mac the first day or so. It will be indexing your disk in the background for Spotlight and that can take hours and have a drastic effect on performance, especially anything that has to access your disk. We see this quite often when inexperienced people get a new Mac and immediately run benchmarking tests and publish their results on the net.

I should have added that you can turn off the indexing temporarily just by dragging your disk(s) to the List in the Privacy tab of the Spotlight System Preferences (I'd reboot after doing that, although it may not be necessary). After your tests you can remove it from the List again to reenable the indexing.

(You can also do this with terminal commands but that's more complex than it used to be because you now have to also disable the System Integrity Protection which is a pain in the butt, and not mentioned in older hints you will find on the internet. So just do it the easy way above.)


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
The MacBook Air M1 just arrived. The very first impression is it's very snappy.
Did you get 8GB or 16GB RAM after all?

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Macy, indeed. But I think it has settled. I always have the activity monitor open to observe what’s going on and it was already “peaceful” by the time I recorded.

Fleer, I got the most basic version with 8GB memory and 256 GB disk.


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Thanks, CG. I’m thinking of getting the 16GB / 2TB to run Spitfire Audio BBCSO and a few other libraries as an all-in-one lightweight solution with a Roland RD-88.

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Not exactly offtopic but I compared how fast the entire unit test suite for our project runs on my Air M1 vs the company MacBook Pro 2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7:

M1 -> 80 seconds, the CPU is barely utilized, stays cold, passive cooling
i7 -> 140 seconds, and the fan runs like a chopper with the Mac also usable as a frying pan

These are all Java tests and I have an ARM64 Zulu build of Java on the M1 Mac which certainly helps.

I’m absolutely blown away by this new Mac! And the battery seems like endless.

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Not exactly offtopic but I compared how fast the entire unit test suite for our project runs on my Air M1 vs the company MacBook Pro 2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7:

M1 -> 80 seconds, the CPU is barely utilized, stays cold, passive cooling
i7 -> 140 seconds, and the fan runs like a chopper with the Mac also usable as a frying pan

These are all Java tests and I have an ARM64 Zulu build of Java on the M1 Mac which certainly helps.

I’m absolutely blown away by this new Mac! And the battery seems like endless.
I bought a 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inc 2.0 ghz model, 16 gig ram,512gig, I’m wondering if I should trade it for base MacBook Air, hmm the battery and laptop running cool a big selling features . I could break even if I trade it in for base air,
The only thing is it has 8 gig ram where as mine has 16


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I’m not an expert but it seems like 8GB of unified RAM is better than 16 loose cannons, for power resides in unity and not in individuality!

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Originally Posted by Pete14
I’m not an expert but it seems like 8GB of unified RAM is better than 16 loose cannons, for power resides in unity and not in individuality!
That’s what I don’t know lol , cybergene where are you


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Jitin, my MacBook Pro is from 2016 and it’s my main computer (company provided). However yours is from 2020 and the benchmarks show it has the lead over the M1. Besides, there’s still a lot of software that’s not built for Apple Silicon. I wouldn’t switch if I were you. I replaced an old 2015 MacBook that was awfully slow.

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Originally Posted by Jitin
I bought a 2020 MacBook Pro 13 inc 2.0 ghz model, 16 gig ram,512gig, I’m wondering if I should trade it for base MacBook Air, hmm the battery and laptop running cool a big selling features . I could break even if I trade it in for base air,
The only thing is it has 8 gig ram where as mine has 16

I guess it depends on how you're currently using MacBook Pro, and how you would be using the M1 MacBook Air.

Also, here's a relevant video from a guy who know his stuff:



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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Jitin, my MacBook Pro is from 2016 and it’s my main computer (company provided). However yours is from 2020 and the benchmarks show it has the lead over the M1. Besides, there’s still a lot of software that’s not built for Apple Silicon. I wouldn’t switch if I were you. I replaced an old 2015 MacBook that was awfully slow.

Yea i probably just keep it. I'm not a heavy user, and i just wanted that battery life and the fact that it runs cooler.

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Originally Posted by Jitin
Yea i probably just keep it. I'm not a heavy user, and i just wanted that battery life and the fact that it runs cooler.

Well, those two characteristics are definitely much improved on the M1 Macs, so if they're important to you, I can see why it might be beneficial to trade-in.

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Jitin, my MacBook Pro is from 2016 and it’s my main computer (company provided). However yours is from 2020 and the benchmarks show it has the lead over the M1. Besides, there’s still a lot of software that’s not built for Apple Silicon. I wouldn’t switch if I were you. I replaced an old 2015 MacBook that was awfully slow.

you may be confusing it with the 16in model, there is no Intel 13in that has the lead in benchmark over the M1 (only some 16in models beat it in benchmarks)


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Jitin, my MacBook Pro is from 2016 and it’s my main computer (company provided). However yours is from 2020 and the benchmarks show it has the lead over the M1. Besides, there’s still a lot of software that’s not built for Apple Silicon. I wouldn’t switch if I were you. I replaced an old 2015 MacBook that was awfully slow.

you may be confusing it with the 16in model, there is no Intel 13in that has the lead in benchmark over the M1 (only some 16in models beat it in benchmarks)

Right, I was thinking about the 16.


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Anybody can tell me if Pianoteq and VSL Synchron pianos run well on M1 machines?

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A big list and discussion of music software/hardware compatibility with the latest Apple products can be found here:

Apple macOS Big Sur and M1 chip: audio gear and software compatibility guide

https://gearspace.com/board/feature...o-gear-software-compatibility-guide.html


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