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Of these Digital pianos mentioned.

Are there any better to buy today - of piano libraries for mac/pc ?

I own EWQLP, but plan to buy Native Digital Piano Collection now for Black Friday 2020.

And Ivory is not an option.

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Garritan Cfx. Ymmv etc.

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I got the Grandeur this Saturday. I was in need for a decent virtual instrument to get me by until mid Jan 2021 that I expect my DP to arrive. For the price (50% sale), it is a nice piano to have. I use it just to practice piano. I don't care about composing, mixing, rendering midi files etc. Just hooking a midi controller and practicing.

Out of the box, I was completely disappointed. The playing experience compared to pianoteq was missing in action. Toying around with various settings, enabling resonances and mostly changing the dynamic range changed things for the better. I think I still prefer pianoteq though, but I don't believe that my 50euro investment was in vain. I guess with a better midi controller than my ESI Keyring 49+, the experience must be much better. Switching from one VI to the other, I like and I miss some things at the same time. The sound is nice and in some cases I prefer it over pianoteq.

Regarding performance, it's super light weight. With a 2018 13" Macbook Pro and a focusrite t 2i4 (first gen), I play at 48Khz and 32 frames with no clicks and pops. I don't use a sustain pedal yet, so when I do I may have to rise up to 64 frames.

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I would recommend the Grandeur, it's one of the best sampled Steinways out there in terms of playability, but the sound is not on the same level as others. Also as was already mentioned it has a tendency to bloom a lot. I fixed it somehow doing something that a forum member recommended to me, but I forgot how I fixed it (was several years ago and I haven't been using it much anymore). I think it involved using the advanced settings of the instruments, and somehow filtering out frequencies that would bloom, or something.
Since the resonances are modelled, if you don't mind iLok, I'd say Ivory American Concert D is better. But it was good having an iLok-free alternative, which is why I appreciate the Grandeur very much.

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I, too, like the Grandeur. But I think the Vintage D is better. The latter sounds more like a piano than anything else I've tried.

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I couldn't get warm with the Vintage D, there was something that bothered me about it but I forgot what it was, haven't used it in a long time. Was it disappearing notes or something, or was that with the Grandeur? Don't wanna lie. I think the resonances were very disappointing, but of course the piano is fairly old by now. I know it was very popular among the Jazz crowd. I was excited when I learned that Noire was made by the same guy, that piano is a definitive improvement IMHO as far as I can tell. I'd love to see him tackle a piano with real resonance samples, that would be badass.

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