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Ill grab my popcorn and enjoy this one. smile

I don't think you'll have enough popcorn.
Want to join me in a bulk purchase to last through this?

If you (and others) join him a pick some of his popcorn... we will surely not have enough popcorn....

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Ill grab my popcorn and enjoy this one. smile

I don't think you'll have enough popcorn.
Want to join me in a bulk purchase to last through this?[/quote]

If you (and others) join him a pick some of his popcorn... we will surely not have enough popcorn....[/quote]

OK, so I rang world-popcorn-supplies.com and asked what current stocks are like. Apparently there is a world shortage due to Covid-19 and some guy who ordered loads for a sit-in protest that is due to continue to the 20 th January...

Sorry guys, you're gonna have to agree that Pianoteq exists in a state of quantum superposition: ie, it is both awesome, awful and all flavours in between and that in some universe, MacMacMac has already reached critical mass (according to the Many Worlds Hypothesis of QM).

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So Schrodinger has traded in his cat for a piano?

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Quantum computing without a quantum computer ?


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Originally Posted by Del Vento
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The good thing about Pianoteq is that it sounds so clean and precise that you think it doesn't exist a single acoustic piano in this world that sounds so clean and precise.

The bad thing about Pianoteq is that it sounds so clean and precise that you think it doesn't exist a single acoustic piano in this world that sounds so clean and precise.

That is not true. Sounding so precise is not a good thing at all.
IMHO sounding clean and precise (but not monotonous!) is very good to learn to play piano, because you can distinguish very well every single note, dynamic levels, etc., and that's very nice especially when you're learning a new piece.
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And it's not bad either because you can actually "age" the tuning with the slider on the bottom, which solves this problem.
Well... Not in my case. Actually I can feel the cleaness and precision of Pianoteq even if you set that slider to the far right. laugh
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But it does not solve the fact that (until v6) the sound is somewhat "plasticky" (again, for lack of better word - someone once on this forum had the right one, but I forgot what it was).
Maybe this could be solved if you connect the sound output of Pianoteq to some transducers connected to a real soundboard.
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So in conclusion, I'll give it a try and report here what I think compared to the earlier version, even though it sounds like nobody cares and this forum exist only to reinforce known memes....
...or maybe it's just that Pianoteq 7 is not the great improvement that many expected. It's a good product, but I was expecting something more from a new major version (personally I don't care for layering and things like that... I just care for piano sound).

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
So Schrodinger has traded in his cat for a piano?

I think we can assume that such an intelligent person would own both 😉


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I'm upgrading even only for changed Steinway D sound:
https://youtu.be/oBMwI-uGV_I
It seems it finally sounds as it should've. I'll judge myself when I get it.

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Originally Posted by dmd
The term "critical mass" when used in the context of nuclear fission is the quantity of mass needed to maintain nuclear fission with no additional material added to the process.

In finance, we speak of it as the quantity of funds invested so that the return on that investment is likely to continue to grow even as you utilize a portion of those funds for living expenses with your life style.

It now appears to me that the product Pianoteq has reached critical mass in terms of having a product that will continue to improve and appeal to a greater and greater number of users from this moment on.

I believe the quality of the product is now at a level to be competitive with other VSTs and has a base sound that is so appealing that it will be given strong consideration as a substitute sound for an acoustic piano.

I have owned the PRO product from day 1 of the evolution of Pianoteq and while it was "interesting" to start, I never (until now) stayed with using it for long.

Now .... I find it just a beautiful sound and with the additional "pianos" and processes like "layering" and "morphing" it feels like I am in a room with hundreds of beautiful pianos and can take my pick of any to play on for the moment.

I just cannot praise Pianoteq (Version 7) highly enough.

In my opinion .... it is now a solid product that will soar in the world of VSTs.


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I joined the party. Bit late, I know. Only to be expected at my age.
D/l version 7 Standard (I currently run Stage, v6.7) and am mightily impressed. Tried previously, Stage 6, but not for me.
This newer incarnation has a greatly improved Petrof, which sounds lovely. Therer's so many great presets which is what I like.
But best of all is the 88 note volume control, which goes up as well as down. It makes a huge difference.
Had to use a 11inch Windows 10 Lenova Ideapad, and on battery power it was faultless.
Won't perform on Windows Vista.
96 euros will get me this upgrade. . . . .Dammit, what's not to like?


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Dammit, what's not to like?

Well for some, that it is Modeled crazy

Sorry I had to do it before Pete14 did laugh


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Dammit, what's not to like?

Well for some, that it is Modeled crazy

Sorry I had to do it before Pete14 did laugh

Y'know, I have this gut feeling even Mac'll start to thaw . . . . just a little at first.


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I have a timeline for this putative thaw ...
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Y'know, I have this gut feeling even Mac'll start to thaw . . . . just a little at first.

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Hey MacMacMac you know it could be sooner then you think. The Cubs did win a World Series LOL


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Sure ... but the Cubs know how to play baseball. Meanwhile, Pianoteq knows how to ... annoy. smile
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Hey MacMacMac you know it could be sooner then you think. The Cubs did win a World Series LOL
Also, keep in mind that it took nearly a century for the Cubs. So perhaps he*l will freeze and Pianoteq will succeed ... in about a century. smile

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I downloaded the demo. I prefer clarity and immediacy. The D and Bosendorfer have that. There was one metallic note in the bass. Otherwise, for $39 you get two quite good emulations and they were fun to play. No opportunity to try the morphing, tho.


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I was under the impression that BallsandDorfer was not part of the Pianoteq roster!

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I am new to Pianoteq, This comparison, if you read the comments is not fair. But the version 7 does sound better, IMO, than 6.
https://youtu.be/oBMwI-uGV_I


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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Sure ... but the Cubs know how to play baseball. Meanwhile, Pianoteq knows how to ... annoy. smile
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Hey MacMacMac you know it could be sooner then you think. The Cubs did win a World Series LOL
Also, keep in mind that it took nearly a century for the Cubs. So perhaps he*l will freeze and Pianoteq will succeed ... in about a century. smile


It was 108 years for the Cubs. So everyone hang in there according to MacMacMac this is how long it will take Pianoteq to become usable laugh


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Originally Posted by Pete14
I was under the impression that BallsandDorfer was not part of the Pianoteq roster!

I think those are hidden in the Victoria era Pianos when everyone pretended to act all Prim and Proper. You have to right click on the magical one to reveal the BallsandDorfer hidden Gem as they call it. Or maybe not!


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In Pianoteq there is a "Besendorfer" in one of the "Historical instruments" packs. It is a model of an instrument from 1829. Other than that, there are no Bösendorfers in Pianoteq. Some people have created presets from other instruments with the Bösendorfer sound in mind, and named them as such.


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Surely, the historical pack must include a BoozeandDorfer?

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