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#3044782 11/11/20 09:46 AM
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Hello all,


I am a pianist and composer. I use an acustic piano and, for my night time sessions, Pianoteq. While I like Pianoteq for playing, I am not completely satisfied of the recording results. In particular for the more "forte" parts, where the attack sounds too sharp and unpleasant. I would like to try some sample-based softwares, before deciding whether to buy one. The problem is that none of the main sampled piano softwares seems to have a demo version. And I don't think it's possible to make a choice with only listening to someone else recordings. I was then thinking to buy Garritan CFX Lite, and then upgrade it to the full version if I like it.
Do you have any suggestion?
Thanks.

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Yeah, that's the problem with sample-based instruments, no demos... I think it's OK to test Garritan CFX Lite and see if you like its general playability and timbre (with my re-pedaling fix if you feel you need it) and then the upgrade to the Full version is worth it for the excellent ambiance.


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Originally Posted by fedbcc
[...]The problem is that none of the main sampled piano softwares seems to have a demo version. [...]
I don't know how good it works, but at least there is "Try-Sound" by www.bestservice.com
You can book sessions and try out some VSTs...
https://www.bestservice.com/try-sound.html


Originally Posted by fedbcc
[...]I was then thinking to buy Garritan CFX Lite, and then upgrade it to the full version if I like it. [...]

Some users here on PW mentioned, that CFX Lite sounds like a completely different instrument...
So while you may regret to buy CFX Lite, you could love CFX Full...

I have the CFX Full and I really like it, it's one of my most used VSTs... Many users here like the "Modern U", I also do :-)


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VSL has a 14 days refund policy. Both the Bosendorfer and the Vienna Imperial are very good. So you only risk the cost of the USB key required.

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Addictive Keys has a demo, try the studio grand. It's the reason I purchased the software.
https://www.xlnaudio.com/demos

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if you buy a focusrite audio interface you get the additive keys studio grand for free. 😀


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I tried Pianoteq and did not like it, very synthetic to my ears. I am totally in love with Garritan CFX. I don't think there's much sonic difference between the lite and the full, so my suggestion to you is get the lite and upgrade later if you wish. Won't regret it !

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Have to agree on the Garritan CFX. I only have the light version. But I still enjoy playing Pianoteq but if I need to record something I do usually pick one of my sampled pianos. Nice that we have all these choices in 2020. As Kermit the Frog would say. YAAAAAAAAAAAY! smile


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The Garritan CFX is unpleasant for me. The samples are noisy. My biggest disappointment. I can't play it anymore because of that.
On the sampled universe, the Ravenscroft 275 is IMO the best compromise (good price, very good sound, beautifully sampled, good pedaling, una corda, light...)

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I did find noise in the binaural samples, enhanced by my digital piano (the signal pass through the digital piano, then I can dual the volume easily).

You can use the Garritan CFX EQ to limit the the noise which is quite high frequency.


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Originally Posted by klausi6
if you buy a focusrite audio interface you get the additive keys studio grand for free. 😀

Exactly what I ended up doing.

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Thanks everyone, a lot of very helpful comments.
Regarding the keys studio grand, is it comparable in quality to the CFC, Ravenscroft, etc?

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Originally Posted by fedbcc
Thanks everyone, a lot of very helpful comments.
Regarding the keys studio grand, is it comparable in quality to the CFC, Ravenscroft, etc?

I'd like to hear some opinions on this. I don't have CFX etc to compare it with. Addictive keys is certainly better than Pianoteq. But so was my Atari 2600 😜

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Originally Posted by fedbcc
Thanks everyone, a lot of very helpful comments.
Regarding the keys studio grand, is it comparable in quality to the CFC, Ravenscroft, etc?

No,

I think these are the most popular sampled pianos.
Garritan CFX, Ravenscroft 275, Modern U, VSL Pianos, Ivory II

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Originally Posted by fedbcc
Thanks everyone, a lot of very helpful comments.
Regarding the keys studio grand, is it comparable in quality to the CFC, Ravenscroft, etc?

No,
It sounds good but it can't compete the 2 others: no sympathetic resonances, no half pedaling or repedaling, no una corda... No buy for me.

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I tried the keys studio grant last night, and I can't say that I am blown away. It's fine, but I wouldn't know whether I would choose it over PT. For me in terms of playability PT it's closer to an acoustic. In terms of sound it's of course not the case. I'll wait for Black Friday to check if there are deals on the other ones!

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Garritan CFX is a Yamaha.
If you don’t want that, there’s:
- Bechstein Digital Grand
- Embertone Walker, if you want a Steinway,
- Wavesfactory Mercury, if you want a Fazioli.

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Originally Posted by fedbcc
Hello all,

I was then thinking to buy Garritan CFX Lite, and then upgrade it to the full version if I like it.
Do you have any suggestion?

Fed


I was really underwhelmed with the Garritan demos on their website, but was blown away by the quality of the software. I'd be cautious of judging the full version from the lite version.

For the princely sum of $32USD you can get a really fun and good selection of sampled pianos here: The Sampletekk ones may not be cutting edge anymore, but they still sound nice!

https://audioplugin.deals/deal-1/

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With VSL, you can return after 2 weeks or something like that - your only investment is the vienna key dongle thing. but I doubt you would return once you've played it. I have the latest bösendorfer synchron and it's just brilliant.

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Historically, has Garritan CFX gone on sale over black friday?

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