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Hi all,

Instead of selling my current midi controller and buying an expensive midi controller, I decided to keep my controller and buy an additional cheap digital piano.

I am not interested that much in the built in sounds. I have a ton of software.
What I am mostly interested is how well the digital piano will integrate with the software and how good is the keybed.

I have come across 2 digital pianos so far and I managed to test them.

Yamaha P-45: has same action as the Yamaha P-125
Roland D-1: Has same action as Korg Grandstage (?)

I tried them both and I was impressed by both of them.
Action of D1 was my favorite. But I have read that it is hard to play very softly or very loud with software libraries. Not sure if that's true.

Has anyone used Garritan CFX of pianoteq with Korg D1 or Yamaha P-45?

Any similar suggestions where there is a trade-off with less quality built in sounds, but you get a very good quality keybed/action in exchange?

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I did some research on the pianoteq forums and apparently the P-45 has the same issue?
I also checked Keyscape and the velocity curve preset for P-45 completely removes the very high and very low velocities which also confirms that.
This is a deal breaker for me.

I might go for studiologic grand and learn how to repair the noisy keys fault.

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You might want to try a Roland FP-10, it's a very basic piano, but it has a great action, same as on other models a few times more expensive. The features are very limited but for use as a midi controller it's a great deal.

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Originally Posted by FPlays
You might want to try a Roland FP-10, it's a very basic piano, but it has a great action, same as on other models a few times more expensive. The features are very limited but for use as a midi controller it's a great deal.

I tried Roland A-88 MKII with the same PHA-4 Standard action and I didn't really like the action. It bounces back too slowly for me.
Unless FP-10 action is different.

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Many people like the M-Audio Hammer 88. $500. Of course, it's just a controller and has no built-in sounds at all.

I have a Roland FP-10 that I use with Pianoteq and Garritan CFX Lite. It works well. Yes, the action can feel a little bit clumsy and slow. On the other hand, it feels more piano-like and I prefer it to others I've tried (Yamaha P125, Casio SX1000).

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I would say if you are going for a real piano feel, the Kawai VPC1 has a lot of love on this forum.
I personally own the StudioLogic SL88Grand, and the problem I have with this is that the black keys are a bit narrow in width as compared to the concert grands I played at school before the pandemic. If you are planning on an upgrade, I would say don't go for the SL88Grand, especially if you only want a piano controller. Go for the Kawai VPC1 when you can!


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