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Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 8, II. Adagio Cantabile

Some more Beethoven to celebrate his 250th Anniversary in 2020.

I learnt this movement all the way back in my teenage years, and I've had a bit of a love-hate relationship with it. On some days I would adore it and yet on others it becomes pure tedium. I love the main theme, however the accompaniment is written in a way that makes it so easy to render this melody dry and mechanical, especially when played at a slow pace. It is also difficult to achieve finger-independent voicing to bring out the singing line (You can see how I had to edit together multiple takes).

It was a couple of years ago that I experimented playing in a way that brings out some inner melodies within the score. For example at 2:10 I bring out the bass voice. And at 3:37 I bring out the tenor voice. Again, somewhat 'sacrilegious' to Beethoven, perhaps. But, oh, it resonates with me! I'm curious as to what you all think?


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I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for posting this. I just learned this and wonder why Beethoven cluttered the score with so many accidentals instead of just changing the key.

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Hi Pika,

I must say I love the tone of your piano, it’s so mellow, but not so much as to be muddy. Can I ask what setup you use for audio recording?

On the performance, my judgement is coloured because this is probably the piece of classical music I’ve listened to the most. And to one specific performance, Horowitz’s version. And as such anything novel, and I think your performance is novel, sounds odd to me. Please do not mistake this for criticism; I found your take interesting and charming. And it is very obvious to me that you have full control over how you want it to sound, and I don’t doubt you could make it sound very ‘vanilla’ if you so chose. And to me that shows that you truly have mastered this piece. Bravo.

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Originally Posted by WTM
Hi Pika,

I must say I love the tone of your piano, it’s so mellow, but not so much as to be muddy. Can I ask what setup you use for audio recording?

On the performance, my judgement is coloured because this is probably the piece of classical music I’ve listened to the most. And to one specific performance, Horowitz’s version. And as such anything novel, and I think your performance is novel, sounds odd to me. Please do not mistake this for criticism; I found your take interesting and charming. And it is very obvious to me that you have full control over how you want it to sound, and I don’t doubt you could make it sound very ‘vanilla’ if you so chose. And to me that shows that you truly have mastered this piece. Bravo.


Thank you! I too enjoy the tone of my Estonia L210. Although, the recorded tone sounds very different to the real life tone. You can hear a lot more of the harmonics in real life. I guess, in order to capture that, I would need some pro equipment and multiple microphones. I only use a Zoom H5, placed about a foot away and above the piano rim, at around the concave rim portion. My living room sounds a bit dry, so I touch up the recording with a little hint of reverb.

I enjoy playing music in a way that resonates with me. Or, the old cliche: "playing from the heart". I am easily bored by any 'vanilla' recordings or artists who 'play it safe'. I adore uniqueness and 'oddities'. It's why I love pianists like Horowitz, Gould, and Lang Lang so much.


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The piano indeed has a beautiful tone, and I would be very curious how it turned out in real life. I recalled a different sound in my limited experiences with the Estonia - more overtones as you mentioned.
I enjoyed the way you brought out the inner voices, even though I probably would not do it myself - at least not to the same extent. Like you, I am more concerned about playing in a way that speaks to me, rather than being "correct" in following the score to a fault. So I enjoy and encourage experimentation - within sensible limits of course, thoiugh admittedly what these limits are is highly subjective and matter of debate.

Nice job!


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